A time to take stock....

[Stephanie]

"If Hall had been intending to commit a burglary would he have got drunk so much so that he had to spend time walking around Ipswich and drive more slowly than if he had been sober? If the crime was committed after 06:00, as the prosecution allege, then he would have exposed himself to the possibility of being seen in the vicinity of the crime scene. Someone intending to commit a crime would be unlikely to take a risk, especially when there was no reason for Hall to commit that crime on that specific day. He could have waited until another occasion to break in. Of course, it can be argued he did not plan the crime, with it being a spontaneous action or one only thought of during the journey from Ipswich to Capel, but this seems difficult to believe. Why would someone with no history of burglary suddenly decide to take a detour on his way home to commit a burglary or murder? Yes, he had been under the influence of alcohol, but he was sobering up by the time he allegedly committed the murder."


For anyone who may be interested - I have never met with or spoken to Scott Lomax. His article was written before I had even seen the case papers.

I was of the belief SH had never committed a burglary until I learned about the Zenith burglary on 5th November 2012.

Following the omission/admission - we learned others appear to have also known about the burglary but chose to remain silent for whatever reason?

http://www.mojuk.org.uk/Portia/archive%2012/hall.html

[marty]

Stephanie, I could be miles out here. I know nothing about the case, I have read things on here and other websites posting on the case. Am I wrong in thinking that depression has paid a big part in the confession,then suicide? I genuinely know nothing, just my first impression.

[Stephanie]

Stephanie, I could be miles out here. I know nothing about the case, I have read things on here and other websites posting on the case. Am I wrong in thinking that depression has paid a big part in the confession,then suicide? I genuinely know nothing, just my first impression.

You will need to follow the Inquest Marty.

What are your views on the confession etc?

I must say Marty I find your post irrelevant to my posts? You've stated you know nothing of the case, so why would you ask me about the confession and his subsequent death?

Do you have an agenda Marty?

[marty]

I honestly couldn't tell you nothing. I have read a few headlines and a couple of pages of threads. I obviously know who you are, but was genuinely asking a genuine question. As for the confession, like I said, have only read limited articles. I think it sounds like a frame of mind thing. I would need to read a lot more though.

[Stephanie]

I honestly couldn't tell you nothing. I have read a few headlines and a couple of pages of threads. I obviously know who you are, but was genuinely asking a genuine question. As for the confession, like I said, have only read limited articles. I think it sounds like a frame of mind thing. I would need to read a lot more though.

What do you mean when you say you "think it sounds like a frame of mind thing?" What are you referring to?

[marty]

Depression, that's why I think he confessed

[Stephanie]

Depression, that's why I think he confessed

Explain. I don't understand?

[marty]

From what I can make out, he lost an appeal that a lot of people thought he would win. His hopes were obviously quashed. Then, it seemed to spiral into depression. Looking from it from the outside,  it seems despair caused the depression which led to the confession. What was his state of mind at the time of confession?

[Stephanie]

From what I can make out, he lost an appeal that a lot of people thought he would win. His hopes were obviously quashed. Then, it seemed to spiral into depression. Looking from it from the outside,  it seems despair caused the depression which led to the confession. What was his state of mind at the time of confession?

I'm afraid you are on your own in that belief Marty. The confession has been accepted as a fact.

[marty]

Well, that's fair enough. If I read more about the case am I ok to ask you more about it?

[Stephanie]

Well, that's fair enough. If I read more about the case am I ok to ask you more about it?

Fill your boots!

Btw - there's only one other person I'm aware of who has questioned the validity of the confession and suggested what you are suggesting....  Seems odd to me why you have now popped up out of nowhere to ask such a random question!?

[marty]

I assure you, I'm asking on my own behalf and no one else's.  I hide behind no other disguises. Everywhere I post on forums, I'm Marty.

[Stephanie]

I assure you, I'm asking on my own behalf and no one else's.  I hide behind no other disguises. Everywhere I post on forums, I'm Marty.

Just to be clear - I don't care who you are or where you post, or what name you call yourself...

What strikes me, and I'm sure anyone else who is following my posts, is your motives for posting on this thread, to me, about SH's confession and subsequent death and how your post came out of the blue.

Your post wasn't even relevant to anything I'd posted - as previously pointed out.

Your posts on the Luke Mitchell thread show you have the ability to keep up with posts/discussion, so again it strikes me as odd that you haven't done so on this occasion?!

And your previous posts on this thread further show you appeared to have been keeping up with events:

I'm beginning to feel your pain Stephanie

Rock and a hard place spring to mind

What I mean is, you have been caught between a rock and a hard place, whatever you do is wrong in some people's eyes.

Fill your boots Stephanie.

No I wouldn', Like I said, fill your boots.

I'm sure you and other posters can see how by you suggesting one minute I am caught between a rock and a hard place and the next minute you are suggesting you know nothing, makes it appear you are on a wind up.

Stephanie, I could be miles out here. I know nothing about the case, I have read things on here and other websites posting on the case. Am I wrong in thinking that depression has paid a big part in the confession,then suicide? I genuinely know nothing, just my first impression.

However, you are entitled to believe what you want to believe Marty. Your opinion is your opinion.

If you truly believe someone confesses to murder because of depression, you are entitled to think this. I won't be bothering to convince you otherwise. It's a waste of my energy. I know the truth and so do most people.

The truth is in the public domain if you can be bothered to find it...

[marty]

When reading your posts Stephanie, they all seem to be, or the last ones I've read , all about Simon hall. This is where it started me thinking about what I had read about it
As far as who I am, it seemed you were implying I was someone else because I had the same view as someone else who posed the same question as me . If I got that wrong I apologize.
I don't know the truth in this case which is why I thought you would be the best person to converse with, that's all.
Marty

[Stephanie]

When reading your posts Stephanie, they all seem to be, or the last ones I've read , all about Simon hall. This is where it started me thinking about what I had read about it
As far as who I am, it seemed you were implying I was someone else because I had the same view as someone else who posed the same question as me . If I got that wrong I apologize.
I don't know the truth in this case which is why I thought you would be the best person to converse with, that's all.
Marty

My last few posts on this thread were indeed about the SH case and details about his confession, good observation Marty. It's what this thread is about as you well know.

As for who you are, as I've already pointed out - I couldn't care less! I stopped playing guess the poster a long time ago.

Have you read the posts I've made about the confession or are you choosing to ignore them on purpose?