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Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« on: April 03, 2015, 11:09:PM »
Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?

"People with Antisocial Personality Disorder (ASPD) are characterized by callous and exploitive behavior and by a lack of empathy or remorse. In DSM-IV, a person with this disorder demonstrates a pervasive pattern of disregard for the rights of others as evidenced by at least three of the following criteria: repeatedly engaging in illegal behavior; frequently lying, using aliases or conning others for personal profit; impulsivity and lack of future planning; irritability and aggressiveness; reckless disregard for the safety of self and others; consistent irresponsibility, with repeated failures to sustain employment or fulfill financial obligations; lack of remorse as evident in indifference to or rationalization of hurting, mistreating or stealing from others. This definition has been criticized, however, for being too focused on behavior instead of personality traits and also for requiring evidence of conduct disorder (a childhood variant of ASPD) before the age of 15."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/handy-psychology-answers/201103/what-do-we-know-about-psychopathy
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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2015, 11:09:PM »
Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?

I was just about to make this thread!  ;D
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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2015, 11:10:PM »
I was just about to make this thread!  ;D

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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2015, 11:12:PM »
I certainly think he's behaviour  and attitude strongly suggests he is.
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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2015, 11:13:PM »
Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?

"People with Antisocial Personality Disorder (ASPD) are characterized by callous and exploitive behavior and by a lack of empathy or remorse. In DSM-IV, a person with this disorder demonstrates a pervasive pattern of disregard for the rights of others as evidenced by at least three of the following criteria: repeatedly engaging in illegal behavior; frequently lying, using aliases or conning others for personal profit; impulsivity and lack of future planning; irritability and aggressiveness; reckless disregard for the safety of self and others; consistent irresponsibility, with repeated failures to sustain employment or fulfill financial obligations; lack of remorse as evident in indifference to or rationalization of hurting, mistreating or stealing from others. This definition has been criticized, however, for being too focused on behavior instead of personality traits and also for requiring evidence of conduct disorder (a childhood variant of ASPD) before the age of 15."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/handy-psychology-answers/201103/what-do-we-know-about-psychopathy

Does anyone know if JB ever used an alias?
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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2015, 11:13:PM »
I certainly think he's behaviour  and attitude strongly suggests he is.

What is psychopathy?

"The concept of psychopathy should be distinguished from the DSM-IV concept of antisocial personality disorder. While diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder is heavily dependent on a record of criminal behavior, psychopathy is more geared to the actual personality traits associated with criminal behavior. Such traits include callousness, superficial and shallow emotion, lack of empathy, irresponsibility, lack of remorse or guilt about harming others, and the tendency to exploit, manipulate and engage in predatory behavior towards others. Psychopathic prisoners commit more serious and violent crimes than non-psychopathic prisoners. They are also more likely to recidivate (commit another crime) after they are released from prison. Moreover, psychopaths are more likely to commit premeditated rather than impulsive crimes. In Michael Woodworth and Stephen Porter's 2002 study of 125 prisoners convicted of homicide, the 34 psychopathic prisoners were much more likely than the 91 non-psychopathic prisoners to have committed premeditated murders (93.3% vs. 48.4%).
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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2015, 11:18:PM »
No proof that he is or isn't imo

Well, we have a conviction for 5 murders including two children with evidence that points to Jeremy. he has a deviant past and the traits used to identify psychopathy have been levelled against Jeremy by people who actually 'knew' him. He refuses to take ANY responsibility or admit to his crime and uses his family to build sympathy for himself. If he is guilty, the recent blog messages are shameful.
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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2015, 11:21:PM »
Does anyone know if JB ever used an alias?

I honestly can't say but he did have letters addressed to other names (come to think of it!). AE found such a letter at WHF and Jeremy was quick to dispose of it.
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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2015, 11:22:PM »
Well, we have a conviction for 5 murders including two children with evidence that points to Jeremy. he has a deviant past and the traits used to identify psychopathy have been levelled against Jeremy by people who actually 'knew' him. He refuses to take ANY responsibility or admit to his crime and uses his family to build sympathy for himself. If he is guilty, the recent blog messages are shameful.

Agreed. His website has an entire link to Psychopathy but it is misleading and does not prove he is not a Psychopath. http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/psychopathy

In fact it is believed JB has never shared copies of his psych reports - therefore what could he be hiding? What is in the reports he does not want the public to know? The fact he is in a Cat-A prison and has been told he will die in prison further suggests the authorities believe he is a serious danger to society.
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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2015, 11:25:PM »
I honestly can't say but he did have letters addressed to other names (come to think of it!). AE found such a letter at WHF and Jeremy was quick to dispose of it.

So he could have used an alias? That's really interesting and something I wasn't aware of.
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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2015, 11:30:PM »
So he could have used an alias? That's really interesting and something I wasn't aware of.

I actually hadn't thought about that until you mentioned it. I'll try and find the reference.
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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2015, 11:39:PM »
I actually hadn't thought about that until you mentioned it. I'll try and find the reference.

I've been searching myself and found this - not about JB but he gets a mention. Wonder what the guy was doing with these papers?

I wondered if he had ever met with JB in prison?

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/local-stories/king-con-in-court-again-for-impersonating-top-lawyer-1-2517447

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1343507/Fraudster-King-Con-claims-hes-earned-2million-crime--slept-2-500-women-hes-released-prison.html

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2_3TALYwXsY
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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2015, 11:53:PM »
I've been searching myself and found this - not about JB but he gets a mention. Wonder what the guy was doing with these papers?

I wondered if he had ever met with JB in prison?

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/local-stories/king-con-in-court-again-for-impersonating-top-lawyer-1-2517447

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1343507/Fraudster-King-Con-claims-hes-earned-2million-crime--slept-2-500-women-hes-released-prison.html

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2_3TALYwXsY

The reference to the letter is in one of AE's statements. I think the excuse he gave was that he was letting someone use there address - which is odd? I have never heard of the guy before but he could have easily downloaded stuff off the internet or he may have corresponded with Jeremy.
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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2015, 11:54:PM »
No proof that he is or isn't imo
For all the incriminating evidence that there is.....and I believe that there's so much, it's almost overwhelming! It's  the taped interview that Jeremy gave from prison, that leaves me with that 1% of doubt.