The killlers

[susan]

Morning Jan

I found it unusual that a tampon holder was found in the lounge (if this is true) women are more discreet than this and would confine this to their own quarters.  My opinion is Jeremy did not use the bike or use a wet suit. With regard to the clothes soaking in the kitchen I would not have thought June would have allowed this and they would have been put in the back room where they belonged unless of course they were placed in the kitchen after June had retired.

[nugnug]

to be honest I don't really have an opinion on this.

I do know that as a woman I find it extremely surprising that she left sanitary objects just around her parents house ( not in her own bedroom discreetly) because most women would never do that - or clothes soaking in the kitchen ( especially when there was a "back kitchen" scullery area).

As for the rest  its probably as unlikely as JB committing the murders in a wetsuit or naked - and or cycling across fields/ footpaths on a sit up and beg bike without lights.

That's why I don't have an opinion - If we have to accept the seemingly impossible for guilt why not for innocent ?

i find it extremly suprising she would do that as well and extremly suprising her parents wouldent complian about it.

[Adam]

Hello Adam

what would be the advantage of wearing a wet suit under his clothes

All in my last post.

[nugnug]

Morning Jan

I found it unusual that a tampon holder was found in the lounge (if this is true) women are more discreet than this and would confine this to their own quarters.  My opinion is Jeremy did not use the bike or use a wet suit. With regard to the clothes soaking in the kitchen I would not have thought June would have allowed this and they would have been put in the back room where they belonged unless of course they were placed in the kitchen after June had retired.

could the tampon holder have been moved for some reason.

[Alias]

to be honest I don't really have an opinion on this.

I do know that as a woman I find it extremely surprising that she left sanitary objects just around her parents house ( not in her own bedroom discreetly) because most women would never do that - or clothes soaking in the kitchen ( especially when there was a "back kitchen" scullery area).

As for the rest  its probably as unlikely as JB committing the murders in a wetsuit or naked - and or cycling across fields/ footpaths on a sit up and beg bike without lights.

That's why I don't have an opinion - If we have to accept the seemingly impossible for guilt why not for innocent ?

The sanitary objects left around the house is very odd. In the bathroom, fine, in her bedroom, probably more likely.
The buckets filled with bloodied, soaking clothes in the kitchen is SUPER weird! Scullery close by, besides, who leaves dirty, soaking clothes in a kitchen - unless you only have space there + the kitchen was carpeted.
It makes no sense at all.

[Caroline]

Morning Jan

I found it unusual that a tampon holder was found in the lounge (if this is true) women are more discreet than this and would confine this to their own quarters.  My opinion is Jeremy did not use the bike or use a wet suit. With regard to the clothes soaking in the kitchen I would not have thought June would have allowed this and they would have been put in the back room where they belonged unless of course they were placed in the kitchen after June had retired.

I don't see what the issue is, the kids had probably got hold of it, they wouldn't know what it was.

[Patti]

Morning Jan

I found it unusual that a tampon holder was found in the lounge (if this is true) women are more discreet than this and would confine this to their own quarters.  My opinion is Jeremy did not use the bike or use a wet suit. With regard to the clothes soaking in the kitchen I would not have thought June would have allowed this and they would have been put in the back room where they belonged unless of course they were placed in the kitchen after June had retired.

Hi Susan

That could be a possibility....

[susan]

Hello Alias I would have thought any female using a tampax would immediately dispose of the holder in the bin or fire I could not imagine leaving it laying around plus I guess she used that tampax late on in the day just my opinion of course I have no sources

[susan]

could the tampon holder have been moved for some reason.

Hello nugnug I can only think Sheila was wandering around with it maybe on her way to the bin in the kitchen and got side tracked and put it down and forgot it.

[Patti]

The sanitary objects left around the house is very odd. In the bathroom, fine, in her bedroom, probably more likely.
The buckets filled with bloodied, soaking clothes in the kitchen is SUPER weird! Scullery close by, besides, who leaves dirty, soaking clothes in a kitchen - unless you only have space there + the kitchen was carpeted.
It makes no sense at all.

I find it odd too. The holder has another bit too it and of course its wrapper.  I doubt June would allow a sanitary holder in her living room.  I think Susan may have given a possibility and that is the holder was put there after June had gone to bed and the underwear put in buckets. 

Sheila could have been awakened by the sudden period and got up to sort this out....Why should would take a sanitary holder to the living room is odd unless she took it with her to sit down for a while had a smoke and forgot to pick it up...but why did she not throw it in the bin or chuck it on the fire in AGA?

I suppose we will never know....as the police failed to investigate it...what I mean is to look for its other part and wrapper and examine the clothes in the buckets.     

[nugnug]

i dont think people of ralph and junes genration would be happy with somthing like that being left in the kithen.

[Patti]

i dont think people of ralph and junes genration would be happy with somthing like that being left in the kithen.

Me neither Nugs its something they would hide from the men....

[nugnug]

Hello nugnug I can only think Sheila was wandering around with it maybe on her way to the bin in the kitchen and got side tracked and put it down and forgot it.

sidetracked with what though.

[scipio_usmc]

to be honest I don't really have an opinion on this.

I do know that as a woman I find it extremely surprising that she left sanitary objects just around her parents house ( not in her own bedroom discreetly) because most women would never do that - or clothes soaking in the kitchen ( especially when there was a "back kitchen" scullery area).

As for the rest  its probably as unlikely as JB committing the murders in a wetsuit or naked - and or cycling across fields/ footpaths on a sit up and beg bike without lights.

That's why I don't have an opinion - If we have to accept the seemingly impossible for guilt why not for innocent ?

More falsehoods and cop-outs that seems to be all you are capable of.

1) The buckets of clothing were found in the back kitchen.  Photos among other things demonstrate this.  You intentionally ignore such so you can try to make a controversy though leaving clothing to soak in a kitchen is not that unusual anyway. 

2) You say it is odd for her to leave the packaging from the tampon in the house instead of garbage bu you refuse to offer any opinion on what is by far the most absurd claim ever made in this case.  That right there says much about you.

3) To avoid discussing the actual question you engage in your usual strawmen arguments.  The issue of Jeremy committing the crime naked or in a wetsuit was not asked of you.  Most who believe Jeremy is guilty don't believe he wore anything besides his normal clothing.  He had the ability to change his clothes at WHF after the murders because he had a room still there with clothing in it and also had the ability to change after he got home.  He also had the ability to bath at WHF or his own house.  He had no need to wear special protective clothing.  Using a bike as opposed to car to and from WHF is a matter of preference and either is possible.

Wearing protective clothing and biking to and from WHF is much more rational thought than the nonsense being spewed by Leb of using the moderator for a tampon which still would not be able to account for the blood found in the moderator.  Anyone willing to support such nonsense by refusing to dispute it is simply admitting they are too biased to face any issue in this case rationally.

 

[Adam]

I hope Leb took on board my post yesterday to quit posting rubbish.