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Re: Do any former inmantes have any information about bamber?
« Reply #885 on: April 03, 2015, 09:29:PM »
Hello Mat

must add I for one have not tried to group any posters together.  I have opposing views to lookout but





do not consider myself as part of any pack mentality not my scene at all. ;D

Because you're not like that,Susan. You're an entirely different person. x

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« Reply #886 on: April 03, 2015, 09:34:PM »
 The same with Steve. He's got opposing views but I can go along with that because of the manner in which he posts. He's not personal and has never hit on one subject in which to " cross examine ". Take a leaf out of his book so far as debating goes.

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« Reply #887 on: April 03, 2015, 09:37:PM »
I have gone back to read every post since early afternoon.

Will someone tell me what this thread is about please....for its lost its course.

Anymore arguing from this point onwards and the thread will be locked.

I have asked that we get back on topic once at its been ignored. I ask again, in hope that you will all take this into consideration.

Any future posts will be removed immediately
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« Reply #888 on: April 03, 2015, 09:39:PM »
Hello Lookout

although you and I have opposing views on the Jeremy Bamber case it does not and never will change my opinion of you which is of a nice kind honest lady with a heart of gold :-*

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« Reply #889 on: April 03, 2015, 09:40:PM »
The same with Steve. He's got opposing views but I can go along with that because of the manner in which he posts. He's not personal and has never hit on one subject in which to " cross examine ". Take a leaf out of his book so far as debating goes.


But how will one learn the answer if one doesn't ask the question?

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« Reply #890 on: April 03, 2015, 09:40:PM »
it was suoposed about people in prison with jeremy and what they had to say about him.

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« Reply #891 on: April 03, 2015, 09:44:PM »
it was suoposed about people in prison with jeremy and what they had to say about him.

Doesn't look like anyone had much to say and those that did ............ (eggshells - CRUNCH!)
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« Reply #892 on: April 03, 2015, 09:47:PM »
well most of the people hes in with have been convicted of simlar crimes does there opinion really matter that much.

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« Reply #893 on: April 03, 2015, 09:48:PM »
Doesn't look like anyone had much to say and those that did ............ (eggshells - CRUNCH!)



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Re: Do any former inmantes have any information about bamber?
« Reply #894 on: April 03, 2015, 09:49:PM »
http://jeremybamber.blogspot.co.uk

He's bragging about his character, this is what com artists do.

He's meant to be writing about his Father but all he 'actually' says about his Father is-

"Dad really was a lovely man, and I was so lucky to have him as my father. There is no question in my mind that he taught me the skills necessary for me to have coped with thirty years of imprisonment. I’d like to hope that he’d be proud of how I’ve survived this ordeal."


The entire blog is about him. He's attempting to paint an idyllic picture of himself.

Nowhere does he say he misses his Father!

Edit - all he actually says about his Father is;

"Dad really was a lovely man" - an entire blog dedicated to his Father that's all he had to say about him?!
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« Reply #895 on: April 03, 2015, 09:57:PM »

JEREMY BAMBER INTERVIEW

This is an edited interview with Jeremy Bamber conducted by telephone from Long Lartin prison, where he was, and still is, serving five life sentences. Bamber sounded, if not convincing, at least convinced. At the top of the letters he writes to his friends and supporters, he puts in capitals how long he has been inside:
2,833 DAYS OF WRONGFUL IMPRISONMENT.

How do you feel now about your conviction ?
“I still can’t understand why I was convicted. It seems incredible to me, eight years after it all happened, still fighting away. There’s so much they don’t want to reveal, so much that they say they didn’t do which would have established my innocence. Had I been arrested immediately and an investigation done, then the truth would have been written much more closely. But, as my dad always used to say to me when any injustice happened to me in my childhood: “don’t worry Jeremy, the truth always comes out in the wash.” I think now the people helping me have been able to put together a package which, the bottom line, as they say, is that it is unimaginable that I would have been convicted had this evidence been before the jury.”

How much trouble have you had from other inmates ?
“Um, pretty much none, very little. I’ve obviously made one or two enemies over the years. I would say the majority of prisoners believe in me – after reading the paperwork, meeting me, quizzing me. The prison staff extend to me, personally, every facility that they can. Very friendly. It’s not the same in every jail, and not the same for every prisoner.”

Have you had any physical assaults ?
“One in Franklin – from a guard, not a prisoner. It was a control and restraint technique. I smashed up my cell and went on a shit protest. It was to do with my case, a daft protest really when I look back at it. I asked for it. Apart from that, in all these years, I’ve never been touched.”

What can you tell me about Sheila ? What sort of person she was ?
“God, that’s a hard question to do in just a few sentences. (Blows heavily.) You’ve sprung that on me. In her early life, a normal sister, interested in English and Art, a sensitive person. A fairly highly-strung person but, up until the age of 17/18, I got on well with her. We had much in common. Then she went up to London and got into the modelling and that changed her quite considerably. It made her too narcissistical (sic). Quite why she started to suffer from schizophrenia, I don’t understand. She suffered from delusions, which made her very distant. It’s very hard when someone you know so well changes so radically, really quite devastating to see someone suffering so much anxiety and not knowing what to do – mostly not having the maturity to deal with that. It makes me very sad now, that none of us – me, my family, the relatives – had understanding about what to do.”

There is conflicting evidence about her actual ability to have committed these crimes with that weapon.
“My own opinion is that she would have had no trouble.”

What about her actual experience ?
“I can’t say that she’d had any particular experience with that particular weapon. It’s not difficult, not sophisticated. They’re simple things to operate. If she’d watched a cowboy movie, it’s almost as simple as that.”

You believe that she committed those crimes using the silencer ?
(Pause). “My own personal belief, I believe that that’s a complete red herring. I don’t have evidence one way or the other on that, not hard evidence. I believe that she didn’t use the silencer.”

Do you see the spark of this crime being the possibility of her children being fostered out ?
“It was something that was discussed. That was one of the many, many options that were discussed over how best to help her. What were the outside pressures causing her such distress ?”

Do you have any regrets about the way you behaved around the time of the funeral ?
“No, because a lot of those things have been grossly exaggerated by the media. I was so devastated at the loss of my family, in a sense I was trying to buy love from my friends by happily picking up the tabs, spending money to buy their affection, because I needed their love. So, no, I don’t regret that… I didn’t do anything wrong.”

What about when you went on holiday ?
“That was just with Brett Collins – we stayed in a caravan, not an expensive holiday.”

Any other regrets ?
“Yes, I suppose I do regret things. Not understanding early enough what was really going on, with the family, being too selfish, too involved with what I was doing. I wish I’d been a better brother. Maybe Sheila and my mum and dad and Daniel and Nicholas would still be alive. I look back now and say, well, so much disturbance, why didn’t I do more ?”

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« Reply #896 on: April 03, 2015, 10:00:PM »
JEREMY BAMBER INTERVIEW

This is an edited interview with Jeremy Bamber conducted by telephone from Long Lartin prison, where he was, and still is, serving five life sentences. Bamber sounded, if not convincing, at least convinced. At the top of the letters he writes to his friends and supporters, he puts in capitals how long he has been inside:
2,833 DAYS OF WRONGFUL IMPRISONMENT.

How do you feel now about your conviction ?
“I still can’t understand why I was convicted. It seems incredible to me, eight years after it all happened, still fighting away. There’s so much they don’t want to reveal, so much that they say they didn’t do which would have established my innocence. Had I been arrested immediately and an investigation done, then the truth would have been written much more closely. But as my dad always used to say to me when any injustice happened to me in my childhood:don’t worry Jeremy, the truth always comes out in the wash.” I think now the people helping me have been able to put together a package which, the bottom line, as they say, is that it is unimaginable that I would have been convicted had this evidence been before the jury.”

How much trouble have you had from other inmates ?
“Um, pretty much none, very little. I’ve obviously made one or two enemies over the years. I would say the majority of prisoners believe in me – after reading the paperwork, meeting me, quizzing me. The prison staff extend to me, personally, every facility that they can. Very friendly. It’s not the same in every jail, and not the same for every prisoner.”

Have you had any physical assaults ?
“One in Franklin – from a guard, not a prisoner. It was a control and restraint technique. I smashed up my cell and went on a shit protest. It was to do with my case, a daft protest really when I look back at it. I asked for it. Apart from that, in all these years, I’ve never been touched.”

What can you tell me about Sheila ? What sort of person she was ?
“God, that’s a hard question to do in just a few sentences. (Blows heavily.) You’ve sprung that on me. In her early life, a normal sister, interested in English and Art, a sensitive person. A fairly highly-strung person but, up until the age of 17/18, I got on well with her. We had much in common. Then she went up to London and got into the modelling and that changed her quite considerably. It made her too narcissistical (sic). Quite why she started to suffer from schizophrenia, I don’t understand. She suffered from delusions, which made her very distant. It’s very hard when someone you know so well changes so radically, really quite devastating to see someone suffering so much anxiety and not knowing what to do – mostly not having the maturity to deal with that. It makes me very sad now, that none of us – me, my family, the relatives – had understanding about what to do.”

There is conflicting evidence about her actual ability to have committed these crimes with that weapon.
“My own opinion is that she would have had no trouble.”

What about her actual experience ?
“I can’t say that she’d had any particular experience with that particular weapon. It’s not difficult, not sophisticated. They’re simple things to operate. If she’d watched a cowboy movie, it’s almost as simple as that.”

You believe that she committed those crimes using the silencer ?
(Pause). “My own personal belief, I believe that that’s a complete red herring. I don’t have evidence one way or the other on that, not hard evidence. I believe that she didn’t use the silencer.”

Do you see the spark of this crime being the possibility of her children being fostered out ?
“It was something that was discussed. That was one of the many, many options that were discussed over how best to help her. What were the outside pressures causing her such distress ?”

Do you have any regrets about the way you behaved around the time of the funeral ?
“No, because a lot of those things have been grossly exaggerated by the media. I was so devastated at the loss of my family, in a sense I was trying to buy love from my friends by happily picking up the tabs, spending money to buy their affection, because I needed their love. So, no, I don’t regret that… I didn’t do anything wrong.”

What about when you went on holiday ?
“That was just with Brett Collins – we stayed in a caravan, not an expensive holiday.”

Any other regrets ?
“Yes, I suppose I do regret things. Not understanding early enough what was really going on, with the family, being too selfish, too involved with what I was doing. I wish I’d been a better brother. Maybe Sheila and my mum and dad and Daniel and Nicholas would still be alive. I look back now and say, well, so much disturbance, why didn’t I do more ?”

ends

http://jimshelley.com/crime/jeremy-bamber-qa/

Thought I'd seen that before.
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« Reply #897 on: April 03, 2015, 10:11:PM »
The recent blog about his father stated -

But Dad loved that phrase

Things always come out in the wash”.

Yet in a previous interview he says -

But as my dad always used to say to me when any injustice happened to me in my childhood:

"don’t worry Jeremy, the truth always comes out in the wash."


Which one was it I wonder? Is that what his Father always said?
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« Reply #898 on: April 03, 2015, 10:40:PM »
Its my birthday today - so I am going to say - and even shout like some others do - I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH YOU ALL . AND STOP  ACCUSING LOOKOUT OF HAVING ANY SORT OF RELATIONSHIP WITH JEREMY WHEN SHE OBVIOUSLY DOES NOT!!! SHE IS NOT POSTING ANYTHING THAT YOU DID NOT POST IN THE PAST WHEN YOU BELIEVED HE WAS INNOCENT ! PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULD NOT THOW STONES !

TO THE GUILTERS - HE HAS A LIFE SENTENCE - WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT? YOU ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW- HE HAS HIS PUNISHMENT .

IF YOU WANT US TO "CONVERT" LIKE YOU AT LEAST BE HONEST ABOUT IT!

STOP BEING PERSONAL AND BACK BITING - DISCUSS AS ADULTS - IF YOU CAN!

rant over  .


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« Reply #899 on: April 03, 2015, 10:43:PM »
Its my birthday today - so I am going to say - and even shout like some others do - I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH YOU ALL . AND STOP  ACCUSING LOOKOUT OF HAVING ANY SORT OF RELATIONSHIP WITH JEREMY WHEN SHE OBVIOUSLY DOES NOT!!! SHE IS NOT POSTING ANYTHING THAT YOU DID NOT POST IN THE PAST WHEN YOU BELIEVED HE WAS INNOCENT ! PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULD NOT THOW STONES !

TO THE GUILTERS - HE HAS A LIFE SENTENCE - WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT? YOU ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW- HE HAS HIS PUNISHMENT .

IF YOU WANT US TO "CONVERT" LIKE YOU AT LEAST BE HONEST ABOUT IT!

STOP BEING PERSONAL AND BACK BITING - DISCUSS AS ADULTS - IF YOU CAN!

rant over  .

Happy Birthday Jan....21 eh?  ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)