Do any former inmantes have any information about bamber?

[Stephanie]

The way the case went,and IF he'd carried out the murders,for some inexplicable reason,he WANTED to be caught,then I'd say it was the most straightforward murder case in history !? 
That's the only other way that my mind thinks if I was to look at it another way, other than I say that he's innocent.

I don't know whether or not he told other people he wanted to murder his family but if he did, the above applies. A difficult one for you to get your head round, I understand. Psychopaths are a difficult breed to fathom.

You may want to read more articles on the subject Lookout.

[lookout]

He didn't tell anyone that he killed the family, he made up the hit man tale.

But he did tell RWB and JM that he could kill his family.Wasn't that hint enough for them both to go scurrying to the police ? Why didn't they ?

It was JM who told the police about the hitman. One of Jeremy's jokes backfiring,as normally it wouldn't have done,but at the time,the " joke " came in handy.

[Stephanie]

But he did tell RWB and JM that he could kill his family.Wasn't that hint enough for them both to go scurrying to the police ? Why didn't they ?

It was JM who told the police about the hitman. One of Jeremy's jokes backfiring,as normally it wouldn't have done,but at the time,the " joke " came in handy.

If it were a joke and JB did tell the above, why has he never explained in his own words why he told a joke like that?

[Jane]

He must be very backward if he didn't think he'd be caught considering he must have known he'd be the only family member left. Perhaps not a psychopath------------just a raving lunatic.
He wasn't in debt ( which is usually a marker ) He had a regular well-paid job ( which is another marker if you haven't ) and he had no money worries ( yet another reason why people kill----desperation )

I thought psychopaths were clever enough NOT to get caught. Though in my estimation,Jeremy wasn't clever,intelligent,but not clever. A clever man wouldn't have told police how to get in through a window,nor would he have disposed of a silencer by putting it back in the cupboard----dirty.A clever man wouldn't have rang the police-period !! Because by doing so,he implicated himself straight away. A clever man would have kept his moth shut at all times and not given police any information until a lawyer was present.Clever ? I don't think so.

Sheila was the one with money worries,health worries,marriage worries,debts,no job,loneliness,unloved.etc etc.constant battles with her mother.

Simply, I imagine he believed himself to be STREETS ahead of the rest of the pack  -we have to be honest and say that the plan was so simple, so do-able, it had a bloody CHEEK to go wrong in causing him to shoot Sheila twice- which is WHY he told the police about how he could get through windows. A "clever" person would have kept a low profile after the massacre. An ARROGANT person would have made themselves conspicuous because they believed themselves untouchable. Which is just what Jeremy did.

[lookout]

I don't know whether or not he told other people he wanted to murder his family but if he did, the above applies. A difficult one for you to get your head round, I understand. Psychopaths are a difficult breed to fathom.

You may want to read more articles on the subject Lookout.

He'd already told RWB and JM both,that he could murder his family.Both didn't waste any time after the event,so why hadn't they done something beforehand ?

[Stephanie]

Steph,how can you possibly get away with it after having told two people of your intentions ? It doesn't make sense. This is why I said that IF Jeremy had done it,he really wanted to be caught.

I wouldn't call that psychopathy,I'd call it sheer lunacy-----(which would have been diagnosed )

He didn't get away with it (presuming that is what he said to others). It wouldn't have been about wanting to be caught, as I explained before. It would have excited him.

I guess it depends on ones own knowledge. I'd call it psychopathy. Definitely not lunacy. I think calling someone a lunatic is more a figure of speak.

[Jane]

He'd already told RWB and JM both,that he could murder his family.Both didn't waste any time after the event,so why hadn't they done something beforehand ?

I imagine RWB went along with the idea that if he had enough rope he'd hang himself. We've discussed JM's probable motives previously.

[Stephanie]

He'd already told RWB and JM both,that he could murder his family.Both didn't waste any time after the event,so why hadn't they done something beforehand ?

If this is your belief Lookout then you are entitled to that. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts about the case I once supported. Innocent or guilty?

[Jane]

Steph,how can you possibly get away with it after having told two people of your intentions ? It doesn't make sense. This is why I said that IF Jeremy had done it,he really wanted to be caught.

I wouldn't call that psychopathy,I'd call it sheer lunacy-----(which would have been diagnosed )

It's having the mindset which says he's streets ahead of the rest of the pack intellectually. He banked on either NOT being believed OR, if there WERE doubts, being given the benefit.....................which is actually what they did. I'd say it was clever.

[David1819]

I don't know whether or not he told other people he wanted to murder his family but if he did, the above applies. A difficult one for you to get your head round, I understand. Psychopaths are a difficult breed to fathom.

You may want to read more articles on the subject Lookout.

Psychopaths are humans they are not a distinct breed, we all have Psychopathic traits to some degree.

If Jeremy committed the crime it would be because he believed he could get away with it and had a major financial incentive to carry it out.

[lookout]

It's having the mindset which says he's streets ahead of the rest of the pack intellectually. He banked on either NOT being believed OR, if there WERE doubts, being given the benefit.....................which is actually what they did. I'd say it was clever.

I'd have called it dumb myself. After the tragedy,Jeremy did EVERYTHING that aroused suspicion,down to him being caught. He may as well have given himself up and be done with.
RWB had a private investigator follow Jeremy. The drug squad were at his home on the day of the funeral because it's been said he was as high as a kite after the murders. His behaviour which everyone followed. Did he REALLY think that all these things would go unnoticed ? 

[Jane]

I'd have called it dumb myself. After the tragedy,Jeremy did EVERYTHING that aroused suspicion,down to him being caught. He may as well have given himself up and be done with.
RWB had a private investigator follow Jeremy. The drug squad were at his home on the day of the funeral because it's been said he was as high as a kite after the murders. His behaviour which everyone followed. Did he REALLY think that all these things would go unnoticed ?

I believe he didn't CARE that he was being noticed/was under scrutiny because he never believed he'd be caught.

[Caroline]

I'd have called it dumb myself. After the tragedy,Jeremy did EVERYTHING that aroused suspicion,down to him being caught. He may as well have given himself up and be done with.
RWB had a private investigator follow Jeremy. The drug squad were at his home on the day of the funeral because it's been said he was as high as a kite after the murders. His behaviour which everyone followed. Did he REALLY think that all these things would go unnoticed ?

I believe he did, because he believed his plan was air tight. To some degree, I think he revelled in it.

[lookout]

I believe he didn't CARE that he was being noticed/was under scrutiny because he never believed he'd be caught.

Dumb again.Anyone with half a brain,who knows that they're constantly under scrutiny,KNOWS that their days are numbered,so therefore they also know that others know too. Of course he'd know he'd be caught.

[Jane]

Dumb again.Anyone with half a brain,who knows that they're constantly under scrutiny,KNOWS that their days are numbered,so therefore they also know that others know too. Of course he'd know he'd be caught.

No, Lookout, NOT dumb. SUPREMELY arrogant.