Do any former inmantes have any information about bamber?

[Patti]

One of my mates was a screw at long lartin in the 90s. I don't know how to add pictures but I'll copy and paste his messages:

1. Well, even if he is innocent and his story is true about his sister he's such a psychopath they would never release him anyway.

2. He has a superior, arrogant and aggressive attitude like no other person I have met before or since. He scared me.

It was only a short conversation, but it interested me because I had heard mostly good things about Jeremy's character until then. I do know that Jeremy has never been found to have any form of psychopathy, so i know he's wrong when he says that. But I know this guy well, and for him to say that Jeremy scared him really struck a chord with me...

I know I'm only a lurker here but Patti can verify that I'm a real person! I can send her screenshots if necessary x

Hi Sparkle

I can vouch for me. Its nice to see you posting. Can I ask how long your friend worked at Long Lartin and in what sort of contact he had with Jeremy.  xxxx

[David1819]

One of my mates was a screw at long lartin in the 90s. I don't know how to add pictures but I'll copy and paste his messages:

1. Well, even if he is innocent and his story is true about his sister he's such a psychopath they would never release him anyway.

2. He has a superior, arrogant and aggressive attitude like no other person I have met before or since. He scared me.

It was only a short conversation, but it interested me because I had heard mostly good things about Jeremy's character until then. I do know that Jeremy has never been found to have any form of psychopathy, so i know he's wrong when he says that. But I know this guy well, and for him to say that Jeremy scared him really struck a chord with me...

I know I'm only a lurker here but Patti can verify that I'm a real person! I can send her screenshots if necessary x

Thanks for the info

I have found similar comments from other people I quote bellow

"No reflection of guilt or innocence...I just personally found him to be a creepy bloke and was very glad of the armed guard with him. He made my hair stand on end."


"A friend of mine is an officer at his prison and has know Bamber for a fair while. His verdict is that he is an evil scheming bastard who is in exactly the right place"

[Adam]

Thanks for the info

I have found similar comments from other people I quote bellow

"No reflection of guilt or innocence...I just personally found him to be a creepy bloke and was very glad of the armed guard with him. He made my hair stand on end."


"A friend of mine is an officer at his prison and has know Bamber for a fair while. His verdict is that he is an evil scheming bastard who is in exactly the right place"

There is a thread on whether Jeremy suffers from Narcisistic Immunity. Believing by sheer force of personality he will make things work, and win.

Bob Woffinden calls him a 'very charming' psychopath.

[lookout]

One of my mates was a screw at long lartin in the 90s. I don't know how to add pictures but I'll copy and paste his messages:

1. Well, even if he is innocent and his story is true about his sister he's such a psychopath they would never release him anyway.

2.
It was only a short conversation, but it interested me because I had heard mostly good things about Jeremy's character until then. I do know that Jeremy has never been found to have any form of psychopathy, so i know he's wrong when he says that. But I know this guy well, and for him to say that Jeremy scared him really struck a chord with me...

I know I'm only a lurker here but Patti can verify that I'm a real person! I can send her screenshots if necessary x

( He has a superior, arrogant and aggressive attitude like no other person I have met before or since. He scared me.)






This " attitude " may well be because of the environment he's in. I would imagine that first and foremost he'd be wary of every prisoner until he got to know them,so in order to maintain his self-preservation,he still feels it necessary to hang on to the " superiority/arrogance " that he portrays.
Jeremy and aggressiveness has never been a feature to my knowledge,as it was never mentioned during the time of any of his assessments.

[Sparkle]

Patti, I will ask him next time I see him, which will no doubt be this week

The friend of mine (to my knowledge) doesn't have the appropriate qualifications to make the assumption that he's a psychopath so that comment wasn't really necessary. It was more his second comment that hit me. He no longer works for the prison service and I don't think he has for many years. I will try and quiz him later in the week! It just surprised me because I'd always heard how friendly and warm Jeremy was. I suppose if I was locked up for a crime I didn't commit I don't think the screws would be my favourite people either though!

[Caroline]

One of my mates was a screw at long lartin in the 90s. I don't know how to add pictures but I'll copy and paste his messages:

1. Well, even if he is innocent and his story is true about his sister he's such a psychopath they would never release him anyway.

2. He has a superior, arrogant and aggressive attitude like no other person I have met before or since. He scared me.

It was only a short conversation, but it interested me because I had heard mostly good things about Jeremy's character until then. I do know that Jeremy has never been found to have any form of psychopathy, so i know he's wrong when he says that. But I know this guy well, and for him to say that Jeremy scared him really struck a chord with me...

I know I'm only a lurker here but Patti can verify that I'm a real person! I can send her screenshots if necessary x

Thanks for that Sparkle but as far as I am aware, Jeremy has only been evaluated once - not sure what test he had but the clim that he has been 'evaluated' 27 times is misleading.

[Patti]

Patti, I will ask him next time I see him, which will no doubt be this week

The friend of mine (to my knowledge) doesn't have the appropriate qualifications to make the assumption that he's a psychopath so that comment wasn't really necessary. It was more his second comment that hit me. He no longer works for the prison service and I don't think he has for many years. I will try and quiz him later in the week! It just surprised me because I'd always heard how friendly and warm Jeremy was. I suppose if I was locked up for a crime I didn't commit I don't think the screws would be my favourite people either though!

Thanks for that Sparkle you're a star...

[Caroline]

Thanks for the info

I have found similar comments from other people I quote bellow

"No reflection of guilt or innocence...I just personally found him to be a creepy bloke and was very glad of the armed guard with him. He made my hair stand on end."


"A friend of mine is an officer at his prison and has know Bamber for a fair while. His verdict is that he is an evil scheming bastard who is in exactly the right place"

Perhaps he's just misunderstood? Maybe he'd had a bad day? He could have had a tooth ache?

Seems like many of those who have MET him, share my view while others just make excuses.

[Jane]

Perhaps he's just misunderstood? Maybe he'd had a bad day? He could have had a tooth ache?

Seems like many of those who have MET him, share my view while others just make excuses.

And I suspect, of those who have met him, males will have a very different take on him from females.

[Stephanie]

And I suspect, of those who have met him, males will have a very different take on him from females.

Why would males have a different take on him to females, That doesn't make sense?

[Stephanie]

I'd say when it boils down to it, a prison is very much a 'dog eat dog' environment. I would think that is would be difficult to gage an inmates character based on the throw away comments of other inmates. I would suggest a holistic approach would be a better proposal.

[Stephanie]

Perhaps he's just misunderstood? Maybe he'd had a bad day? He could have had a tooth ache?

Seems like many of those who have MET him, share my view while others just make excuses.

Apparently psychopaths have a high pain threshold, therefore I hardly think a toothache would affect the behaviour of one.

We all have an opinion Caroline and I think it's a good thing that people flock to post on a forum such as this to debate. But what I can't quite fathom is why anyone would want to spend 24/7 arguing about why someone who has been convicted of murder and will never be released from jail, is guilty? I don't understand this phenomenon?

[Stephanie]

Perhaps he's just misunderstood? Maybe he'd had a bad day? He could have had a tooth ache?

Seems like many of those who have MET him, share my view while others just make excuses.

It also Seems like many of those who have met him, disagree with your view. I don't think it's fair for you to suggest "others make excuses for him." I think many of these people genuinely believe he is innocent. There is no doubt the original investigation was flawed and there appear to be many grounds for contention, otherwise there would be nothing to debate.

[Stephanie]

Rather than former inmates, does anyone have any historical information on Major Leslie Marsham and Ms Juliet Wheeler, for example? This may have been discussed previously, I have yet to search the forum.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/He+went+to+lovely+people+who+gave+him+the+best+start+in+life.+He...-a0112751004

[Stephanie]

Some people have skeletons in their closet that they do not wish known by others, ever. I am not suggesting these people have skeletons in their closet per se, but I know the lengths some people will go to in order to be perceived as good folk, even if it means causing immense pain to others in order to stop their truth coming out and put an end to all the speculating. I just wondered had genetic factors ever been considered. I know this aspect isn't often looked into in a murder case.