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Offline Patti

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Re: Why did two Jurors believe Jeremy was not guilty?
« Reply #60 on: March 10, 2015, 06:01:PM »
It was a fascinating case.  Adams was of course on trial for his life so the case got a lot of publicity.  The defence managed to retain Professor Keith Simpson, the most eminent Pathologist of the time.  This was his first, and I believe the only trial where he gave evidence for the defence.

I read the book many years ago, it was one of the best true crime books I have ever read.  Adam's went on to practice too after the trial....

I'm trying to think who portrayed him in the film???????

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Re: Why did two Jurors believe Jeremy was not guilty?
« Reply #61 on: March 10, 2015, 06:01:PM »
we can guess, but I would to know  :(  in fact have any of the 12 jurors every said anything in the last 30 years?

There is no report of any juror speaking about this.


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Re: Why did two Jurors believe Jeremy was not guilty?
« Reply #62 on: March 10, 2015, 06:03:PM »
I wondered what that was Patti, think the old predictive text got the better of you  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Why did two Jurors believe Jeremy was not guilty?
« Reply #63 on: March 10, 2015, 06:06:PM »
I read the book many years ago, it was one of the best true crime books I have ever read.  Adam's went on to practice too after the trial....

I'm trying to think who portrayed him in the film???????

Adams was disciplined by the GMC in relation to some irregularities relating to drugs.  I believe this was based upon matters dislosed in the trial.  I think he was suspended from practice, but he may well have resumed practice after his period of suspension.  He carried on living in the locality.  By all accounts he was well liked.  He died not that many years ago.

I can't remember who portrayed him in the film, but I remember watching it.  Was it a film or a TV programme?


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Re: Why did two Jurors believe Jeremy was not guilty?
« Reply #64 on: March 10, 2015, 06:24:PM »
Adams was disciplined by the GMC in relation to some irregularities relating to drugs.  I believe this was based upon matters dislosed in the trial.  I think he was suspended from practice, but he may well have resumed practice after his period of suspension.  He carried on living in the locality.  By all accounts he was well liked.  He died not that many years ago.

I can't remember who portrayed him in the film, but I remember watching it.  Was it a film or a TV programme?

I remember something about his mother when she died, it was a blessing for she had suffered.  It was said that this is one of the reasons he ended the life in his patients, because he did not wish them to suffer in the same way.  No substance to it of course. 

He was left a Rolls Royce in one of the wills....he was quite wealthy or became quite wealthy.  He did go on practicing , but did not have the quantity of patients he had before the trial.

It was Timothy West.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Why did two Jurors believe Jeremy was not guilty?
« Reply #65 on: March 10, 2015, 06:46:PM »
Adams was disciplined by the GMC in relation to some irregularities relating to drugs.  I believe this was based upon matters dislosed in the trial.  I think he was suspended from practice, but he may well have resumed practice after his period of suspension.  He carried on living in the locality.  By all accounts he was well liked.  He died not that many years ago.

I can't remember who portrayed him in the film, but I remember watching it.  Was it a film or a TV programme?
It was a BBC tv programme, my husband worked on it.  They filmed the court scenes in St Georges Hall in Liverpool.  Timothy West was Bodkin Adams.
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Re: Why did two Jurors believe Jeremy was not guilty?
« Reply #66 on: March 10, 2015, 07:06:PM »
There is no report of any juror speaking about this.

do we have any names?

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Re: Why did two Jurors believe Jeremy was not guilty?
« Reply #67 on: March 10, 2015, 07:10:PM »
do we have any names?
I remember some old threads discussing this david, maybe as far back as a couple of years ago, can't remember the conclusions.

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Re: Why did two Jurors believe Jeremy was not guilty?
« Reply #68 on: March 10, 2015, 07:21:PM »
I remember some old threads discussing this david, maybe as far back as a couple of years ago, can't remember the conclusions.

I wonder if any of them ever wonder if they were wrong??  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Why did two Jurors believe Jeremy was not guilty?
« Reply #69 on: March 10, 2015, 07:41:PM »
As there are a few books about I would have thought they would have been approached . But I haver never seen it mentioned.

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Re: Why did two Jurors believe Jeremy was not guilty?
« Reply #70 on: March 10, 2015, 08:08:PM »
It would be great to hear from some of the Jury members... Are their names not public domain?

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Re: Why did two Jurors believe Jeremy was not guilty?
« Reply #71 on: March 10, 2015, 08:10:PM »
Judge John Deed is currently presiding over an inheritance killing on TV.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Why did two Jurors believe Jeremy was not guilty?
« Reply #72 on: March 11, 2015, 12:31:AM »
do we have any names?

I doubt they would publicise the names of the jury (for obvious reasons).
Few people have the imagination for reality

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Re: Why did two Jurors believe Jeremy was not guilty?
« Reply #73 on: March 11, 2015, 09:09:AM »
 Huntley's case was clear-cut.He WAS found guilty beyond reasonable doubt, the monster in those terrible murders,but one juror decided to be different Why ?
Does this prove that some people are totally unsuitable ?

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Re: Why did two Jurors believe Jeremy was not guilty?
« Reply #74 on: March 11, 2015, 01:19:PM »
Huntley's case was clear-cut.He WAS found guilty beyond reasonable doubt, the monster in those terrible murders,but one juror decided to be different Why ?
Does this prove that some people are totally unsuitable ?

When I was on jury service I must admit that I had the shakes. I listened carefully in court, but I could not make a decision based on my own thoughts.  I suppose this is why we get shunted to a private room to discuss what had been said in court. We worked as a team, but I did not have a great deal of input. 

Both cases were clear cut, both defendants were found guilty.  I did feel sorry for one of them. His family were in court along with his young son who was about 11 years old. The son had taken the witness stand to say he was playing football with his father in the rain and this is why his fathers jeans were covered in mud.  The lad clearly lied and it was awful to see that he loved his father dearly.

The lads father had been fighting on the ground with a police officer and that is how his jeans got muddy.  The police found the muddy jeans at the bottom of a wash basket, there were no muddy clothes found from his son.  The police identified the man who was caught robbing a cigarette machine inside a working mans club.

When the verdict was read out his family started to cry and it was that, that upset me. 

The judge then read out all the past crimes of the man....he clearly had a bad record of thieving.  I could not help but fill up when I saw his son cry. It made me feel guilty, but at the end of the day his father let alone his mother should never have allowed that little lad to give evidence or put him through such an ordeal.