Order of Sheila's first 10/11 shots.

[lookout]

Jeremy was non too keen on guns either,unlike his cousin AP and also AE,who were masters at their game. Sheila had more guts than Jeremy.She was the one who used to stick up for him if her brother was being bullied---------------remember ? Or like others,you choose to forget these little snippets from their childhood days ?

[Adam]

Anthony Pargeter said he had never seen Sheila fire a gun.

[lookout]

Anthony Pargeter said he had never seen Sheila fire a gun.

Excuse me.Have you seen the contradictory statements he made ? Have you seen where DB and AP finally had to admit having seen Sheila handle a gun ?
Start looking at statements,etc in the archives and stop repeating unnecessary drivel.

[guest2181]

It wouldn't be in your eyes,would it ?  ( here we go )

In the mid-80's,we had such a system with 4/5 phones on the same link and they operated as I've just explained.

It is simply not true that such a system operated in that way at WHF.

I don't think I could be any clearer on that.

[lookout]

It is simply not true that such a system operated in that way at WHF.

I don't think I could be any clearer on that.

Okay,then explain your version,then I can pick holes in it.

[Adam]

Excuse me.Have you seen the contradictory statements he made ? Have you seen where DB and AP finally had to admit having seen Sheila handle a gun ?
Start looking at statements,etc in the archives and stop repeating unnecessary drivel.

I am looking at the archives. AP agreeing with Jeremy who testified Sheila had 'limited experience with guns'.

Show me the source where he says this.  Or stop posting unnecessary drivel.

[Adam]

Peter Eaton also said Sheila had no interest in guns.

Frightened, no interest, limited experience, never used.

Neville and June must have really upset her in the 'alleged' conversation about fostering. She must have got out a manual prior to re loading.

[guest2181]

Okay,then explain your version,then I can pick holes in it.

Version of what? 

[lookout]

Version of what? 

Of how the phones worked at WHF  Seeing that you know everything.

[guest2181]

Of how the phones worked at WHF  Seeing that you know everything.

There was a single line in to WHF, all phones were usually connected to the single line (although obviously not on the night of the murders).

They could each be used to dial out, but not at the same time. If a call was in progress on one phone, then another phone could be picked up and would be connected to the conversation.

If a phone was off the hook and the dialing tone had ceased, then all other phones in the house would be blocked from making or receiving calls.

There was no extension system, you could not dial a phone in the house, from another phone in the house.

[lookout]

There was a single line in to WHF, all phones were usually connected to the single line (although obviously not on the night of the murders).

They could each be used to dial out, but not at the same time. If a call was in progress on one phone, then another phone could be picked up and would be connected to the conversation.

If a phone was off the hook and the dialing tone had ceased, then all other phones in the house would be blocked from making or receiving calls.

There was no extension system, you could not dial a phone in the house, from another phone in the house.

This is EXACTLY what I said,except that the wording is different.

One thing I didn't say was that you had to " dial " another person in the household in order to be in touch with them. You don't dial at all...All that was needed was a couple of depressions on the active button to summon anyone in the household providing they weren't already in conversation via the normal channels of dialling. This IS done when there's only one line leading to a property where you have 4/5 phones. Obviously,the signal was weaker the more phones you had connected.

[guest2181]

This is EXACTLY what I said,except that the wording is different.

One thing I didn't say was that you had to " dial " another person in the household in order to be in touch with them. You don't dial at all...All that was needed was a couple of depressions on the active button to summon anyone in the household providing they weren't already in conversation via the normal channels of dialling. This IS done when there's only one line leading to a property where you have 4/5 phones. Obviously,the signal was weaker the more phones you had connected.

As I said, that is simply not true.

You could not make internal phone calls.

[lookout]

As I said, that is simply not true.

You could not make internal phone calls.

You obviously don't understand what I'm saying. You DON'T make internal calls as such.It acts as an intercom as soon as you hear a tinkle,caused by lightly pressing the metal active button. If you're able to listen in to a call from anywhere within the property,then you can also pick up a receiver which automatically activates ALL phones ( being on the one line ) then you can speak to another member of that household. NO dialling is needed.

[Mr. Gee]

There was a single line in to WHF, all phones were usually connected to the single line (although obviously not on the night of the murders).

They could each be used to dial out, but not at the same time. If a call was in progress on one phone, then another phone could be picked up and would be connected to the conversation.

If a phone was off the hook and the dialing tone had ceased, then all other phones in the house would be blocked from making or receiving calls.

There was no extension system, you could not dial a phone in the house, from another phone in the house.

So in effect all phones in the house were disconnected except the itchen phone that should have been upstairs in the main bedroom?

[susan]

Hello lookout think I grasp what you are saying I also grasp what harters is saying. I will try and explain what I think without confusing the issue If you were in the kitchen at WHF and I was in the bedroom you picked up the handset and I may hear a click not a tinkle and I would pick up the handset and say hello can I help you Don't think the system was designed to act as an intercom system