Order of Sheila's first 10/11 shots.

[guest2181]

Hartley,the phone found under the magazines,was it a push button model do you know?

I thought it was an old dial phone, but would have to check.

[tyler]

I thought it was an old dial phone, but would have to check.

Thanks. Its just that the engineer said in his statement that June preferred a round dial type telephone,and I thought maybe that is why the usual kitchen telephone was discarded in favour of the cream bedroom one.

[guest2181]

I thought it was an old dial phone, but would have to check.

No, it was the other way around. The bedroom phone was a finger dial, the usual kitchen phone was a push button digital.

This is noted in the statement from BOUTTELL.

The photograph of the phone off the hook shows the finger dial bedroom phone.

[guest2181]

Thanks. Its just that the engineer said in his statement that June preferred a round dial type telephone,and I thought maybe that is why the usual kitchen telephone was discarded in favour of the cream bedroom one.

That would be one of the possible innocent theories then.

[guest2181]

Thanks. Its just that the engineer said in his statement that June preferred a round dial type telephone,and I thought maybe that is why the usual kitchen telephone was discarded in favour of the cream bedroom one.

Although why swap it over, rather than having the finger dial phone in the kitchen all the time? 

[tyler]

No, it was the other way around. The bedroom phone was a finger dial, the usual kitchen phone was a push button digital.

This is noted in the statement from BOUTTELL.

The photograph of the phone off the hook shows the finger dial bedroom phone.

I had thought it might be.And a good reason for the switch around is my previous post. Im surprised that the bedroom telephone was not temporarily replaced though. I guess it may have been and the killer moved/hid it,or the Bambers simply no longer wanted a telephone in their room anymore.

[tyler]

Although why swap it over, rather than having the finger dial phone in the kitchen all the time? 

Maybe June just decided at the time the cordless one went off for repair? And maybe no longer wanted a phone in her bedroom any more as allegedly Sheila was prone to call her her father in the night and maybe it was disturbing her? She was said to be a light sleeper and was taking sleeping pills.The phone ringing in the middle of the night must have been an annoyance?

[scipio_usmc]

Maybe June just decided at the time the cordless one went off for repair? And maybe no longer wanted a phone in her bedroom any more as allegedly Sheila was prone to call her her father in the night and maybe it was disturbing her? She was said to be a light sleeper and was taking sleeping pills.The phone ringing in the middle of the night must have been an annoyance?

If June didn't want a phone in the bedroom then after the storm broke that phone they would have told the telephone company not to replace the bedroom phone.  Instead they had it replaced.  They would have simply told the telephone company they didn't want to pay to rent the last phone anymore.

The cordless phone they got rid of completely.  It broke and they replaced it but stilll wasn't working to the family's satisfaction and they decided not to try using it anymore so got rid of it as well as the slitter which had allowed 2 phones to be used in the kitchen. 

If they still wanted 2 phones in the kitchen they could have kept the splitter and used the bedroom phone and kitchen phone there.  Jeremy is obviously the one who moved the bedroom phone to the kitchen because he claimed it was moved there because the kitchen phone broke and later claimed the phone that was hidden was just an extra.  Why would he lie and say it was just an extra phone unless he was trying to hide it was the phone he falsely claimed was broken?

[tyler]

If June didn't want a phone in the bedroom then after the storm broke that phone they would have told the telephone company not to replace the bedroom phone.  Instead they had it replaced.  They would have simply told the telephone company they didn't want to pay to rent the last phone anymore.

The cordless phone they got rid of completely.  It broke and they replaced it but stilll wasn't working to the family's satisfaction and they decided not to try using it anymore so got rid of it as well as the slitter which had allowed 2 phones to be used in the kitchen. 

If they still wanted 2 phones in the kitchen they could have kept the splitter and used the bedroom phone and kitchen phone there.  Jeremy is obviously the one who moved the bedroom phone to the kitchen because he claimed it was moved there because the kitchen phone broke and later claimed the phone that was hidden was just an extra.  Why would he lie and say it was just an extra phone unless he was trying to hide it was the phone he falsely claimed was broken?

Most of your post is totally innacurate,but never mind.

[scipio_usmc]

Most of your post is totally innacurate,but never mind.

What is inaccurate?  The statements of those involved with servicing the phones and using them is what I went by. 

Here is the phone company agent about the phones:





Here is the person who took the cordless phone away because they didn't want it anymore and he took the 2 way splitter as well so it was no longer possible to plug 2 phones in the kitchen, he noted the cream rotary phone normally in the bedroom was in the kitchen at the time he removed the cordless phone so it was moved to the kitchen prior to the murders





Here is where it is recounted that Jeremy lied and said the hidden phone was an extra phone though they never had an extra phone it was the phone normally kept in the kitchen and how he had previously claimed the bedroom phone was moved to the kitchen because the kitchen phone was broken



Barbara wilson




So what seems rather obvious is that in anticipation of the murders Jeremy moved the bedroom phone to the kitchen and lied and stated the kitchen phone was broken and he hid it.

He continued to tell that lie to people after the murders including to Jean.  Upon Jean finding the kitchen phone which he had hidden she tested it and found out it worked and then asked him why it was hidden.  He told her it was just a spare phone not to worry about it.  But she later thought about it and realized it was the kitchen phone which he had told her was broken.

Barbara also recognized it as the kitchen phone and she also tested it and found it working and chose to use it instead of the dial phone for the remainder of the time she worked at WHF.

 

[lookout]

Those phones also served as " internal intercoms ". If someone downstairs wanted the person who was upstairs,they just lifted the receiver and depressed the button so that the upstairs phone would " tinkle ",prompting those who heard it to lift the receiver and speak.
You could always tell if a third party within,picked up the receiver to listen-in to the call,as you'd hear that tinkle as soon as the receiver was lifted or replaced.

[guest2181]

Those phones also served as " internal intercoms ". If someone downstairs wanted the person who was upstairs,they just lifted the receiver and depressed the button so that the upstairs phone would " tinkle ",prompting those who heard it to lift the receiver and speak.
You could always tell if a third party within,picked up the receiver to listen-in to the call,as you'd hear that tinkle as soon as the receiver was lifted or replaced.

That is simply not true.

[lookout]

That is simply not true.

It wouldn't be in your eyes,would it ?  ( here we go )

In the mid-80's,we had such a system with 4/5 phones on the same link and they operated as I've just explained. 

[lookout]

When you have phones which are interconnected like that,of course you can listen in to calls if you're that way inclined,of course you can connect yourself to another member of the household if using separate rooms. There is only one line going into the property feeding x amount of phones.What you can't do is dial out if someone happens to be using the phone at the time.

[Adam]

Peter Eaton said Sheila was 'definitely frightened of guns'. He had never seen her use a gun.