Russia - worrying?

[gringo]

African leaders shunned Vladimir Putin’s summit

https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2023/07/26/why-african-leaders-shunned-vladimir-putins-summit

    49 of 54 African nations have delegations at the summit. This even after the concerted pressure from the US to not attend. This was spoken about by African leaders who were contemptuous of the Us and its bullying. In truth the summit is a great success and an example of the emerging multipolar world to replace the current, "Rules based International Order" that all western leaders speak of. It is just poor cope coming from Western media. Only 17 leaders, Russia shunned blah blah is nonsense. 49 of 54 African nations are there, lots of important business. The Putin shunned story is the best spin that Western media can put on what is another huge step for Russia and Africa on the world stage.
     Lots of important deals and agreements are being concluded. The reception that US representatives have been getting in their own tour of Africa, in order to attempt to disrupt the growing collaboration with Russia by African states, has been less than warm. Kamala Harris and Anthony Blinken lectured by African leaders.
     Where is the Africa Summit being held in the US?, UK? EU? Are any of them hosting delegations from 49 of 54 African states?

[David1819]

That you use one post for each video, rather than just sticking 5 on the one post betrays your real motive.

    Here's the thing, David. As you know I read https://www.moonofalabama.org/ on a regular basis. It is a very long standing international community of the informed, connected and interested in geopolitics. The comments section always throws up some very interesting sub-plots and intrigues. The worldwide community of "barflies" link to agreements, articles, declassified papers that may be relevant to any discussion. It is way deeper and more informative than anything you will ever see in any mainstream source.
     There are the odd commenters who post regularly videos. However, when they do, they don't need a new post for every video. You will get someone post 5 or 6 videos in one post and then leave it at that. They would be removed by Bernhard anyway if they posted in the manner that you do.
     24 out of 36 posts, all spamming videos, tells its own story, David. Those 24 posts could easily have been just four. But that wouldn't derail discussion, so you choose to post 24, because that is your aim.

I post each video when it's uploaded to Reddit the same day around the same time. How can I possibly combine videos into one post when that would require having links to footage that does not yet exist depicting events that have not yet happened.

There is not much discussion here anyway.  Long winded fan fiction from Tankie fantasy world is not a discussion point. Since in Tankie fantasy world the Russian army is invincible, no wonder you complain about footage from reality.

[David1819]

    49 of 54 African nations have delegations at the summit. This even after the concerted pressure from the US to not attend. This was spoken about by African leaders who were contemptuous of the Us and its bullying. In truth the summit is a great success and an example of the emerging multipolar world to replace the current, "Rules based International Order" that all western leaders speak of. It is just poor cope coming from Western media. Only 17 leaders, Russia shunned blah blah is nonsense. 49 of 54 African nations are there, lots of important business. The Putin shunned story is the best spin that Western media can put on what is another huge step for Russia and Africa on the world stage.
     Lots of important deals and agreements are being concluded. The reception that US representatives have been getting in their own tour of Africa, in order to attempt to disrupt the growing collaboration with Russia by African states, has been less than warm. Kamala Harris and Anthony Blinken lectured by African leaders.
     Where is the Africa Summit being held in the US?, UK? EU? Are any of them hosting delegations from 49 of 54 African states?

I am not concerned about what transpired in Tankie fantasy world.

[David1819]

"Kremlin blames west for small number of leaders due at Russia-Africa summit"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/26/kremlin-blames-west-for-small-number-of-leaders-russia-africa-summit-ukraine-war-grain-deal-vladimir-putin

[Steve_uk]

    49 of 54 African nations have delegations at the summit. This even after the concerted pressure from the US to not attend. This was spoken about by African leaders who were contemptuous of the Us and its bullying. In truth the summit is a great success and an example of the emerging multipolar world to replace the current, "Rules based International Order" that all western leaders speak of. It is just poor cope coming from Western media. Only 17 leaders, Russia shunned blah blah is nonsense. 49 of 54 African nations are there, lots of important business. The Putin shunned story is the best spin that Western media can put on what is another huge step for Russia and Africa on the world stage.
     Lots of important deals and agreements are being concluded. The reception that US representatives have been getting in their own tour of Africa, in order to attempt to disrupt the growing collaboration with Russia by African states, has been less than warm. Kamala Harris and Anthony Blinken lectured by African leaders.
     Where is the Africa Summit being held in the US?, UK? EU? Are any of them hosting delegations from 49 of 54 African states?

Putin has scuppered the Black Sea Grain Initiative, which targeted help where it was needed most. Didn't Blair and Brown write off billions of Africa's debt? I read Russia's aid to African nations has fallen in recent years.

[gringo]

Putin has scuppered the Black Sea Grain Initiative, which targeted help where it was needed most. Didn't Blair and Brown write off billions of Africa's debt? I read Russia's aid to African nations has fallen in recent years.

    If you believe that the "Black Sea Grain Initiative(BSGI)...targeted help where it was needed most", then you need to check the figures and get back to us with them. As is usual with the "Empire of Lies", the facts and figures don't support their narrative. To be more accurate, the facts and figures don't have even a passing acquaintance with the Western concocted narrative.
     Ukraine/NATO have failed throughout the entirety of the BSGI to uphold their side of the deal regarding Russian fertilisers and SWIFT access to facillitate transactions. NATO have abused the "humanitarian corridor" to attack the Kerch Bridge and also abused the corridor for weapons shipments.

     Read the link below, Steve. Tell me all about BSGI targeting help where it was most needed when you have. It is the data from the UN telling you exactly where the shipments went. It is not an opinion. Then tell me how the "narrative" that you are repeating has any relationship with those figures.

     https://www.un.org/en/black-sea-grain-initiative/vessel-movements
     

[gringo]

      To break down some of those figures, Steve. The figures that you don't bother looking into first before repeating what you are told, but ultimately the figures upon which your repeated narrative either stands or falls.
     Spoiler alert; it falls

     Just shy of 33,000,0000 metric tonnes have been shipped under the BSGI. Of those 33m tonnes-
    8m to China
    6m to Spain
    3.2m to Turkey
    2m to Italy
    2m to the Netherlands

    Those are the 5 largest recipients.

    Poor nations account for a tiny percentage of the total and were never the beneficiaries of the initiative anyway, nor were they intended to be. NATO/Ukraine invoked the poor nations plight only out of hypocrisy and self interest.

[gringo]

Putin has scuppered the Black Sea Grain Initiative, which targeted help where it was needed most. Didn't Blair and Brown write off billions of Africa's debt? I read Russia's aid to African nations has fallen in recent years.

   Do you know who the largest exporters of grain are, Steve? How big a percentage of world grain trade that Ukraine represents? I doubt it, because you wouldn't repeat the obvious propaganda that you do repeat if you knew the numbers. You would realise that the narrative being promoted has no credibility and falls apart immediately on contact with air and reason.

      The 2022 figures show that Ukraine grain represents about 4% of the total grain exported worldwide. The grain sent by Ukraine to poor counties is a tiny fraction of that 4%.

     If the concern of NATO et al is making sure that the poor nations receive enough grain then they can easily facilitate this. The Top 4 exporting nations in 2022 were the US, Canada, France and Australia who between them account for just over half of all grain exports in 2022.(51.5% of all grain exported)
     The 5th largest, down from 1 in 2020, is Russia. Western sanctions bringing their export total down. They are already replacing the tiny amount of grain lost by this initiative anyway. The top 4 could easily do likewise if the starving were really their chief concern.


   

[David1819]

Ukraine moves Christmas to December 25, distancing itself from Russian tradition

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/29/europe/ukraine-christmas-date-change-intl/index.html

[Steve_uk]

    If you believe that the "Black Sea Grain Initiative(BSGI)...targeted help where it was needed most", then you need to check the figures and get back to us with them. As is usual with the "Empire of Lies", the facts and figures don't support their narrative. To be more accurate, the facts and figures don't have even a passing acquaintance with the Western concocted narrative.
     Ukraine/NATO have failed throughout the entirety of the BSGI to uphold their side of the deal regarding Russian fertilisers and SWIFT access to facillitate transactions. NATO have abused the "humanitarian corridor" to attack the Kerch Bridge and also abused the corridor for weapons shipments.

     Read the link below, Steve. Tell me all about BSGI targeting help where it was most needed when you have. It is the data from the UN telling you exactly where the shipments went. It is not an opinion. Then tell me how the "narrative" that you are repeating has any relationship with those figures.

     https://www.un.org/en/black-sea-grain-initiative/vessel-movements
   

There are still some poor countries on that list. China became a major beneficiary after it abstained on votes condemning the invasion at the United Nations.

[Steve_uk]

Ukraine moves Christmas to December 25, distancing itself from Russian tradition

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/29/europe/ukraine-christmas-date-change-intl/index.html

Patriarch Krill was a member of the KGB. How he reconciled that with churchman I do not know.

[gringo]

There are still some poor countries on that list. China became a major beneficiary after it abstained on votes condemning the invasion at the United Nations.

    Do you think that those numbers support the Western narrative? It is a lie that the BSGI can have any effect on feeding the hungry. The numbers tell the story, which explains why the numbers aren't in the western MSM.

[Steve_uk]

    Do you think that those numbers support the Western narrative? It is a lie that the BSGI can have any effect on feeding the hungry. The numbers tell the story, which explains why the numbers aren't in the western MSM.

You know full well the USA is the most generous aid donor in the world. How did scuppering the Black Sea Grain Initiative help the Third World? https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/7/21/concern-mounts-in-east-africa-over-halted-black-sea-grain-deal

[gringo]

You know full well the USA is the most generous aid donor in the world. How did scuppering the Black Sea Grain Initiative help the Third World? https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/7/21/concern-mounts-in-east-africa-over-halted-black-sea-grain-deal

   US Aid is not a "generous aid donor" in any meaningful sense. Administrated by the well known humanitarian/warmonger Samantha Power, USAid is simply a vehicle promoting US hegemony. The "aid" always has many "conditions" applied.
     This, however has nothing to do with the misrepresentations regarding the Black Sea Grain Initiative.

[David1819]

Day 522 of the 10 day special military operation. Moscow targeted again as Kyiv steps up drone attacks inside Russia.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/30/world/moscow-city-drone-attack-sunday-russia-ukraine-intl-hnk/index.html