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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2760 on: April 28, 2023, 10:18:PM »
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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2761 on: April 29, 2023, 01:42:PM »
this is intresting https://youtu.be/LJDevsbG4ns

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2762 on: April 29, 2023, 05:42:PM »
this is intresting https://youtu.be/LJDevsbG4ns
I'm not sure the Trawnikis were exclusively Ukrainian. In any event you have made the case for the Jews to return to their own homeland.
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« Reply #2763 on: April 29, 2023, 08:36:PM »
I'm not sure the Trawnikis were exclusively Ukrainian. In any event you have made the case for the Jews to return to their own homeland.
    The notion that "the Jews" have "their" homeland is indefensible horseshit. Given that anyone can convert and become a "Jew", how is that person now entitled to land that they have no connection to? Is "Jewishness" a race or a religion? It depends on the duplicitous argument being made.
     I could argue that myself and all of my direct family are "entitled" to our own "homeland" in Ghana or Nigeria with a far more convincing and direct case than the bullshit entitlements of Zionists.

    In 1834 slaves in Antigua and the wider Caribbean were emancipated. Amongst those emancipated slaves was one "William Jordan Rice Watson". This was obviously the slave owners name which was taken up by WJR Watson-the emancipated slave. WJR Watson ended up in Hull, eventually lost at sea on a whaling ship but not before marrying and having children. His eldest son, also William Jordan Rice Watson, was the father of my grandfather(my mother's dad).
    The slaves on Antigua mostly came from the Gold Coast and the Bight of Biafra(now parts of Ghana and Nigeria). The emancipated slave WJR Watson, or his parents, were removed/stolen from their land in Africa and transported to the Caribbean.
     To be clear, I don't think that I am entitled to any land in Ghana or Nigeria. Nor do I feel entitled to any part of Antigua, although we do plan to visit on a family holiday :)
     My own, and my direct family's, connection to that land is far closer and more real and definable than the Zionist myth.

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« Reply #2764 on: April 29, 2023, 10:07:PM »
    The notion that "the Jews" have "their" homeland is indefensible horseshit. Given that anyone can convert and become a "Jew", how is that person now entitled to land that they have no connection to? Is "Jewishness" a race or a religion? It depends on the duplicitous argument being made.
     I could argue that myself and all of my direct family are "entitled" to our own "homeland" in Ghana or Nigeria with a far more convincing and direct case than the bullshit entitlements of Zionists.

    In 1834 slaves in Antigua and the wider Caribbean were emancipated. Amongst those emancipated slaves was one "William Jordan Rice Watson". This was obviously the slave owners name which was taken up by WJR Watson-the emancipated slave. WJR Watson ended up in Hull, eventually lost at sea on a whaling ship but not before marrying and having children. His eldest son, also William Jordan Rice Watson, was the father of my grandfather(my mother's dad).
    The slaves on Antigua mostly came from the Gold Coast and the Bight of Biafra(now parts of Ghana and Nigeria). The emancipated slave WJR Watson, or his parents, were removed/stolen from their land in Africa and transported to the Caribbean.
     To be clear, I don't think that I am entitled to any land in Ghana or Nigeria. Nor do I feel entitled to any part of Antigua, although we do plan to visit on a family holiday :)
     My own, and my direct family's, connection to that land is far closer and more real and definable than the Zionist myth.
Why don't you claim residency in Ghana if you feel you have a connection with the land? I assume it's because you lead a better life in the UK. The Jews led by Moses from Egypt into Canaan have been around for 4000 years, which I mentioned in an earlier post.

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2765 on: April 29, 2023, 11:02:PM »
Why don't you claim residency in Ghana if you feel you have a connection with the land? I assume it's because you lead a better life in the UK. The Jews led by Moses from Egypt into Canaan have been around for 4000 years, which I mentioned in an earlier post.
   How to spectacularly miss the point. Jews do not have an entitlement to Palestine because of some biblical story.
     "Lead a better life in the UK" than where? I've never lived in Ghana. How could you or I know if that would be better or worse?
     The point, Steve, was not that I am entitled to residency or land in Ghana/Nigeria-it was making clear that I don't think this. I can trace my direct connection, only five generations back, and don't think that I and my relatives have any entitlement to this. Why would people, whose connection to land is a thousands of years old bible story, have any entitlement to land based on such flimsy grounds?

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2766 on: April 30, 2023, 05:43:PM »
   How to spectacularly miss the point. Jews do not have an entitlement to Palestine because of some biblical story.
     "Lead a better life in the UK" than where? I've never lived in Ghana. How could you or I know if that would be better or worse?
     The point, Steve, was not that I am entitled to residency or land in Ghana/Nigeria-it was making clear that I don't think this. I can trace my direct connection, only five generations back, and don't think that I and my relatives have any entitlement to this. Why would people, whose connection to land is a thousands of years old bible story, have any entitlement to land based on such flimsy grounds?
But the West Bank is Judea and Samaria to Jews. I'm all for the two-state solution, but given the history of the Jews they are not going to allow a fully-fledged hostile Islamic state on their borders with an army which could at some future point in time be used to annihilate them.

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2767 on: May 02, 2023, 02:33:AM »
For the first time, Armenia (along with Brazil, Kazakhstan and China, among others) voted in favour of a UN General Assembly resolution that condemns Russia aggression against Ukraine and Georgia.

https://twitter.com/metesohtaoglu/status/1653048677831770113

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2768 on: May 02, 2023, 12:32:PM »
Many Georgians aren't to happy about the influx of Russians ( refugees ) and feel as though their country is being taken over again. Especially those Russians who've fled with all their savings enabling them to purchase properties/nightclubs where only Russian is spoken, mainly by the older sector of Georgia.
One Georgian cafe/restaurant owner demands that any Russian going to his cafe, speaks English and is anti-Putin.
A lot of Russians have moved on from Tblisi and Georgia because of the possible problems erupting again.

Turkey won't give long-term visas to Russians, if at all in some cases, but there are still far-flung countries where visas are still permitted. Having a Russian passport isn't the best flavour of the month  ;D

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2769 on: May 02, 2023, 12:49:PM »
For the first time, Armenia (along with Brazil, Kazakhstan and China, among others) voted in favour of a UN General Assembly resolution that condemns Russia aggression against Ukraine and Georgia.

https://twitter.com/metesohtaoglu/status/1653048677831770113

One day David, you might find yourself in a conversation with a gulag jailer in the Urals. Hopefully they will be able to play chess. And you can tell them all about the Bamber case, if you work on your Russian language skills.

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2770 on: May 02, 2023, 05:13:PM »
One day David, you might find yourself in a conversation with a gulag jailer in the Urals. Hopefully they will be able to play chess. And you can tell them all about the Bamber case, if you work on your Russian language skills.

Check out my latest single  8)

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2771 on: May 02, 2023, 05:23:PM »
Check out my latest single  8)

https://youtu.be/3nGtoThx9Bk?t=51

Is he supporting Russia? I'm not very bright 🫤

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2772 on: May 02, 2023, 05:28:PM »
Is he supporting Russia? I'm not very bright 🫤

Yes, its this guy -

https://youtu.be/1dwlMeohLPI?t=167

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2773 on: May 04, 2023, 12:28:PM »
Analysts says Russia ‘likely staged’ Kremlin drone attack it blamed on Ukraine and the West

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/04/did-russia-stage-the-kremlin-drone-attack-it-blamed-on-ukraine-.html

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2774 on: May 04, 2023, 12:56:PM »
Analysts says Russia ‘likely staged’ Kremlin drone attack it blamed on Ukraine and the West

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/04/did-russia-stage-the-kremlin-drone-attack-it-blamed-on-ukraine-.html

50/50. Might be / might not.
Russia, UK, US and many others all capable of staging stuff.

If Putin had been took out, I wonder what would have happened.