Russia - worrying?

[gringo]

     A little more background on the ICC prosecutor in this case. In 2021 the ICC, after some international pressure, re-opened it's investigations into war crimes in Afghanistan. Incredibly, Karim Asad Ahmed Khan, decided to stop investigating US war crimes due to "the limited resources available to my office relative to the scale and nature of crimes within the jurisdiction of the court" and focused only on possible crimes by the Taliban.
     All they have to do is watch the "Collateral Murder" video released by Julian Assange. None of the perpetrators have been even charged with an offence despite the world having seen it and the guy who released it languishes still in a maximum security prison convicted of nothing but conveniently silenced.

https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/statement-prosecutor-international-criminal-court-karim-khan-qc-following-application

  In preparing to resume my investigation, if authorisation is granted, I am cognizant of the limited resources available to my Office relative to the scale and nature of crimes within the jurisdiction of the Court that are being or have been committed in various parts of the world. I have therefore decided to focus my Office's investigations in Afghanistan on crimes allegedly committed by the Taliban and the Islamic State – Khorasan Province ("IS-K") and to deprioritise other aspects of this investigation. The gravity, scale and continuing nature of alleged crimes by the Taliban and the Islamic State, which include allegations of indiscriminate attacks on civilians, targeted extrajudicial executions, persecution of women and girls, crimes against children and other crimes affecting the civilian population at large, demand focus and proper resources from my Office, if we are to construct credible cases capable of being proved beyond reasonable doubt in the courtroom.

     Khan is not a credible impartial arbiter of anything- he is a political activist.

[David1819]

The international criminal court in The Hague has indicted the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, and children’s commissioner, Maria Lvova-Belova, for the mass abduction of Ukrainian children.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/17/vladimir-putin-war-crimes-icc-arrest-warrant-ukraine-children

[Steve_uk]

     A little more background on the ICC prosecutor in this case. In 2021 the ICC, after some international pressure, re-opened it's investigations into war crimes in Afghanistan. Incredibly, Karim Asad Ahmed Khan, decided to stop investigating US war crimes due to "the limited resources available to my office relative to the scale and nature of crimes within the jurisdiction of the court" and focused only on possible crimes by the Taliban.
     All they have to do is watch the "Collateral Murder" video released by Julian Assange. None of the perpetrators have been even charged with an offence despite the world having seen it and the guy who released it languishes still in a maximum security prison convicted of nothing but conveniently silenced.

https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/statement-prosecutor-international-criminal-court-karim-khan-qc-following-application

  In preparing to resume my investigation, if authorisation is granted, I am cognizant of the limited resources available to my Office relative to the scale and nature of crimes within the jurisdiction of the Court that are being or have been committed in various parts of the world. I have therefore decided to focus my Office's investigations in Afghanistan on crimes allegedly committed by the Taliban and the Islamic State – Khorasan Province ("IS-K") and to deprioritise other aspects of this investigation. The gravity, scale and continuing nature of alleged crimes by the Taliban and the Islamic State, which include allegations of indiscriminate attacks on civilians, targeted extrajudicial executions, persecution of women and girls, crimes against children and other crimes affecting the civilian population at large, demand focus and proper resources from my Office, if we are to construct credible cases capable of being proved beyond reasonable doubt in the courtroom.

     Khan is not a credible impartial arbiter of anything- he is a political activist.

If you have guys on the streets with an RPG then they will be shot at, won't they?

[David1819]

"As for the charges Putin faces, there’s a real problem for the Russian leader — he appeared on television, smiling and nodding with Lvova-Belova as she spelled out her crimes and revealed that she had “adopted” a stolen Ukrainian child. It has proved hard in past war crime trials to find sufficient evidence. If Putin is ever arraigned, he will have a hard time defending himself."

https://cepa.org/article/wanted-for-crimes-against-children-vladimir-putin/

[handymanz]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/17/vladimir-putin-arrest-warrant-ukraine-war-crimes

Last month, the Yale Humanitarian Research Lab published a report alleging that at least 6,000 children from Ukraine had been sent to Russian “re-education” camps in the past year. In a statement on Friday, the ICC prosecutor, Karim Khan, said: “Incidents identified by my office include the deportation of at least hundreds of children taken from orphanages and children’s care homes.”

It looks like the west is getting desperate in trying to demonise Russia & Putin.
There is no substance to this story. What exactly is it trying to say. When Russia troops invade Ukrainian towns, it has the audacity to not leave abandoned children in orphanages.


I think a lot of these news makers watch to many movies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LehcJeNbFBw

[David1819]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/17/vladimir-putin-arrest-warrant-ukraine-war-crimes

It looks like the west is getting desperate in trying to demonise Russia & Putin.
There is no substance to this story. What exactly is it trying to say. When Russia troops invade Ukrainian towns, it has the audacity to not leave abandoned children in orphanages.


I think a lot of these news makers watch to many movies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LehcJeNbFBw

Russia troops invading Ukrainian towns is what made the children orphans in the first place.

[gringo]

If you have guys on the streets with an RPG then they will be shot at, won't they?

   Do you even know what the "collateral murder" video is? No RPG's. There were Reuters journalists. You have no shame and seem willing even to justify blatant war crimes murdering civilians and journalists. Muttering about RPG's- you are utterly brainwashed and willing to ignore any amount of war crimes and brutality if it is done by "your side".

[Steve_uk]

   Do you even know what the "collateral murder" video is? No RPG's. There were Reuters journalists. You have no shame and seem willing even to justify blatant war crimes murdering civilians and journalists. Muttering about RPG's- you are utterly brainwashed and willing to ignore any amount of war crimes and brutality if it is done by "your side".

No I am repeating Julian Assange's own words.

[gringo]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/17/vladimir-putin-arrest-warrant-ukraine-war-crimes

It looks like the west is getting desperate in trying to demonise Russia & Putin.
There is no substance to this story. What exactly is it trying to say. When Russia troops invade Ukrainian towns, it has the audacity to not leave abandoned children in orphanages.


I think a lot of these news makers watch to many movies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LehcJeNbFBw

   

Russia troops invading Ukrainian towns is what made the children orphans in the first place.

    It was Ukrainian shelling that made the children orphans.

[gringo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfvFpT-iypw&ab_channel=PeopleOverPolitics

    The collateral murder video for you, Steve. The alleged RPG is a camera. It speaks to how brainwashed you are. You are willing to overlook the murder of unarmed civilians and journalists but regard the humanitarian moving of orphans away from a war zone to be worthy of a war crimes trial-just because that is what you were told to do.
     You are at least meant to apply some critical thinking as you read.

[Steve_uk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfvFpT-iypw&ab_channel=PeopleOverPolitics

    The collateral murder video for you, Steve. The alleged RPG is a camera. It speaks to how brainwashed you are. You are willing to overlook the murder of unarmed civilians and journalists but regard the humanitarian moving of orphans away from a war zone to be worthy of a war crimes trial-just because that is what you were told to do.
     You are at least meant to apply some critical thinking as you read.

Who made it a war zone?

[gringo]

If you have guys on the streets with an RPG then they will be shot at, won't they?

  No RPG's, Steve. There was the bit where they circle around and shoot at the ambulance and stretcher bearers collecting the dead and wounded. Also the bit where our "freedom fighting" gunship heroes justify the killing of children in a casual jokey manner with the sick observation that, "you shouldn't bring your kids into a war zone". Only sick, perverted and twisted minds could justify the murder of civilians and children so casually and without remorse. This is who you condone with your ill informed indoctrination repeated mindlessly and uncritically.
     They didn't "bring their kids to a war zone"- Warmongers, thieves and pirates brought a war to their home and then murdered reporters, civilians and their children. Then the warmongers murdered the stretcher bearers. Then they jailed the whistle-blowers and lied. You are wilfully blind to western aggression and warmongering.
   

[gringo]

Who made it a war zone?

   The Ukrainian Armed Forces made it a war zone after the 2014 coup and were shelling civilian areas deliberately. This is all recorded by the OSCE. You already know this.
     The not at all subtle shift noted.
     "Russian invasion caused the deaths."
     "But, it was Ukrainian shelling civilian ares that made them orphans."
     "Russia made us kill the civilians."
     Does it never occur to you that the mental gymnastics you perform and double standards you need to hold to demonise the "other" is because you are supporting an untenable position? You ignore the abundance of evidence of NATO/western warmongering, invasions, coups, theft and utter destruction of country after country and pretend to be concerned about the orphans that you have just been instructed to "care about". You are a mindless drone.
     

[Steve_uk]

   The Ukrainian Armed Forces made it a war zone after the 2014 coup and were shelling civilian areas deliberately. This is all recorded by the OSCE. You already know this.
     The not at all subtle shift noted.
     "Russian invasion caused the deaths."
     "But, it was Ukrainian shelling civilian ares that made them orphans."
     "Russia made us kill the civilians."
     Does it never occur to you that the mental gymnastics you perform and double standards you need to hold to demonise the "other" is because you are supporting an untenable position? You ignore the abundance of evidence of NATO/western warmongering, invasions, coups, theft and utter destruction of country after country and pretend to be concerned about the orphans that you have just been instructed to "care about". You are a mindless drone.
   

I don't ignore the aggression as you call it. Saddam Hussein banned the UN weapons inspectors and paid the ultimate price. Gaddafi was feared to massacre civilians in Benghazi were he not removed. Putin could have requested a UN peacekeeping force to enter Crimea were he so concerned about violence against civilians. His future actions confirmed his intentions all along.

[David1819]

        It was Ukrainian shelling that made the children orphans.

Ramblings of a mad man.