Russia - worrying?

[gringo]

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Selfawarewolf

You are at it again. 

   When you can cohesively and coherently present your own argument, I may take you seriously. I would stick to the playstation games if I were you, David. Your lack of any real insight or knowledge of world affairs is exposed by the shallowness of your comments.
   Who the fuck has ever used the expression "selfawarewolf"?  You can't even compose your own insults. I refer you back to this;

 David:  Have you ever heard of a "Selfawarewolf"? Its when someone unknowingly describes themselves.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Selfawarewolf
 
 gringo: Have you ever heard of a gobshite?
     It's the sort of person who when attempting to debate above his reading level resorts to arbitrary links as an "appeal to authority", posts irrelevant pictures and memes and uses urban dictionary in the absence of being able to construct a cohesive and coherent reply.

   
   The fact that you don't attempt to refute my points raised, as I have yours in previous posts, demonstrates your lack of argument and lack of knowledge required to debate hence your non original and repeated childish insults. You need to raise your game.

   


   



 


   

[gringo]

How Ukraine Won the Battle for Kyiv

https://www.rollingstone.co.uk/politics/features/how-ukraine-won-battle-kyiv-14872/

   There was no battle of Kiev, David.
    Russia has successfully shaped the battlefield and pinned the larger defending forces who now lack any means of mobility. This has become apparent to all but the wilfully blind.

[lookout]

https://socialistworker.co.uk/news/cover-up-as-british-army-fuels-war-drive-in-ukraine/

I knew they were in Poland in February ( training ) but I didn't know they were in Ukraine----though it wouldn't be difficult to work out.

[David1819]

   There was no battle of Kiev, David.
    Russia has successfully shaped the battlefield and pinned the larger defending forces who now lack any means of mobility. This has become apparent to all but the wilfully blind.

Sour grapes. Sour grapes. Soon you will be saying there was no battle for eastern Ukraine. 

[gringo]

Sour grapes. Sour grapes. Soon you will be saying there was no battle for eastern Ukraine. 

   How is the Donbass cauldron going? Any supplies, fuel or reinforcements?
    There are between 60 and 100 thousand of the Ukrainian army there.
    Do you think the Ukrainians are in a strong position?
    This is the backbone of the Army.
     Do you still believe that Russia are running out of ammo?
    Do you think that what you imagine to be the battle for Kiev played any part in the Donbass front becoming isolated and now without supply lines or reinforcements?
    It's called a pinning manoeuvre, very useful tactic in chess and war. That you still cannot conceive of strategies and tactics below the surface probably explains your string of chess defeats to NGB.

[Roch]

   How is the Donbass cauldron going? Any supplies, fuel or reinforcements?
    There are between 60 and 100 thousand of the Ukrainian army there.
    Do you think the Ukrainians are in a strong position?
    This is the backbone of the Army.
     Do you still believe that Russia are running out of ammo?
    Do you think that what you imagine to be the battle for Kiev played any part in the Donbass front becoming isolated and now without supply lines or reinforcements?
    It's called a pinning manoeuvre, very useful tactic in chess and war. That you still cannot conceive of strategies and tactics below the surface probably explains your string of chess defeats to NGB.

Sorry David, but I had a schoolboy snigger when I read the last couple of sentences.

[David1819]

   How is the Donbass cauldron going? Any supplies, fuel or reinforcements?
    There are between 60 and 100 thousand of the Ukrainian army there.
    Do you think the Ukrainians are in a strong position?
    This is the backbone of the Army.
     Do you still believe that Russia are running out of ammo?

Its all down to psychology. The Ukrainian troops are on "deaths ground" as Sun Tzu would put it. They are willing and motivated. They are fighting for everything, their homeland their families and their freedom. Failure is not an option for them. The Russian troops on the other hand are demoralised and reluctant to fight and who can blame them? Risking your life because some egomaniac in the Kremlin knows his days are numbered and fancies himself as the next Peter the Great for the history books.

Do you think that what you imagine to be the battle for Kiev played any part in the Donbass front becoming isolated and now without supply lines or reinforcements?

Dombas is not isolated. The forces intended for Kyiv are being sent to the south in a desperate attempt to achieve something in time for Vladolf Putler's may 9th parade.

It's called a pinning manoeuvre, very useful tactic in chess and war.

No, its called spinning a tale after a failure. For example...

From Führer headquarters, 3 February 1943. The supreme command of the Wehrmacht announces that the battle of Stalingrad has come to an end. True to its oath of allegiance, the Sixth Army under the exemplary leadership of Field Marshal Paulus has been annihilated by the overwhelming superiority of enemy numbers. The sacrifice of the Sixth Army was not in vain. As the bulwark of our historic European mission, it has held out against the onslaught of six Soviet armies. They died so that Germany might live.

Huge contrast from the fact that Paulus actually surrendered and almost 100,000 German troops were taken prisoner.

Likewise Putler's defeat at Kyiv is spun as some kind of victory.

That you still cannot conceive of strategies and tactics below the surface probably explains your string of chess defeats to NGB.

No, my string of defeats is simply explained by the fact that NGB plays better than I do.

[gringo]

Quote from: gringo on Today at 08:46 PM
That you still cannot conceive of strategies and tactics below the surface probably explains your string of chess defeats to NGB.

No, my string of defeats is simply explained by the fact that NGB plays better than I do.

Why does NGB play better than you? Probably because of the above. Until you figure it out, your string of defeats will get longer.

[gringo]

Its all down to psychology. The Ukrainian troops are on "deaths ground" as Sun Tzu would put it. They are willing and motivated. They are fighting for everything, their homeland their families and their freedom. Failure is not an option for them. The Russian troops on the other hand are demoralised and reluctant to fight and who can blame them? Risking your life because some egomaniac in the Kremlin knows his days are numbered and fancies himself as the next Peter the Great for the history books.

    That is wishful thinking, not analysis. Just slightly below hope. If that is your strategy for the cut off, no chance of re-supply or reinforcement or escape Ukrainian army in the Donbass cauldron then they are doomed. To be honest there is no strategy that could be successful.
     Your pulled from your arse, and based on more of your "wishful thinking", opinion that the Russian troops are demoralised but the surrounded and isolated Ukrainians willing and motivated is the total opposite of reality. Have a little think about it. Russian artillery and bombs landing constantly degrading their dug in defences. Fast running out supplies of everything.
     Something about Peter the Great; you have nothing to say do you?

  No, its called spinning a tale after a failure. For example...

From Führer headquarters, 3 February 1943. The supreme command of the Wehrmacht announces that the battle of Stalingrad has come to an end. True to its oath of allegiance, the Sixth Army under the exemplary leadership of Field Marshal Paulus has been annihilated by the overwhelming superiority of enemy numbers. The sacrifice of the Sixth Army was not in vain. As the bulwark of our historic European mission, it has held out against the onslaught of six Soviet armies. They died so that Germany might live.

Huge contrast from the fact that Paulus actually surrendered and almost 100,000 German troops were taken prisoner.

Likewise Putler's defeat at Kyiv is spun as some kind of victory.

     An irrelevant historical comparison that for unexplained reasons you consider apt. You have nothing to say but say it anyway. If you really believe that the Ukrainian troops caught in the cauldron will survive on the wishful thinking presented by you, then the rest of your opinions should be given the same weight that this one deserves.

[David1819]

Quote from: gringo on Today at 08:46 PM
That you still cannot conceive of strategies and tactics below the surface probably explains your string of chess defeats to NGB.

No, my string of defeats is simply explained by the fact that NGB plays better than I do.

Why does NGB play better than you? Probably because of the above. Until you figure it out, your string of defeats will get longer.

Maybe you should listen to, arguably the greatest chess player of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF5xMw0wKXM

[gringo]

Maybe you should listen to, arguably the greatest chess player of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF5xMw0wKXM

   Maybe if you learned more from his unarguably brilliant chess playing and listened less to his always wrong geopolitics, then you could perhaps be better informed at the latter and eventually defeat NGB at the former.

[David1819]

   Maybe if you learned more from his unarguably brilliant chess playing and listened less to his always wrong geopolitics, then you could perhaps be better informed at the latter and eventually defeat NGB at the former.

You claimed my perceived lack of understanding of your analysis is why I lose chess games. Yet the greatest chess player of all time shares the same view I do on the same subject that is (according to you) the reason I lose at chess.

  Checkmate.

[gringo]

You claimed my perceived lack of understanding of your analysis is why I lose chess games. Yet the greatest chess player of all time shares the same view I do on the same subject that is (according to you) the reason I lose at chess.

  Checkmate.

   Your lack of understanding of strategies and tactics below the surface was a reason I gave for your string of defeats. As well as being a bit funny (well made Roch snigger) it is also true. Even without following move by move, your encounters with NGB, I can confidently assert that there are hidden (to you for certain) strategies being employed by NGB. That is literally how you play better at chess.
    Kasparov was, I'm sure still is, a dynamic chess player. I remember following the Karpov/Kasparov games, which were well reported in those days as well as his encounters with the computers (forget the names, can't be arsed to look). I played chess regularly at that time and Kasparov was a genuinely exciting player, even though that sounds like an oxymoron. Chess exciting?
     Since his heady days as a precocious chess talent and towering presence as the seemingly unbeatable world champion, he has become better known as an outspoken critic/dissident of the Russian government. He sides with questionable allies and his political views are not in any way related to his undoubted talent as a chess genius.
    In the video that you presented, Kasparov was not talking about strategy and tactics, he is talking/stuttering his way through heaps of wishful thinking. It's all believe and hope. Bollocks in other words.
    Your still in checkmate yourself, agreeing with Kasparov on his own personal politics is not the same as being Kasparov's chess equal, but you are used to it anyway.

[David1819]

   Your lack of understanding of strategies and tactics below the surface was a reason I gave for your string of defeats. As well as being a bit funny (well made Roch snigger) it is also true. Even without following move by move, your encounters with NGB, I can confidently assert that there are hidden (to you for certain) strategies being employed by NGB. That is literally how you play better at chess.
    Kasparov was, I'm sure still is, a dynamic chess player. I remember following the Karpov/Kasparov games, which were well reported in those days as well as his encounters with the computers (forget the names, can't be arsed to look). I played chess regularly at that time and Kasparov was a genuinely exciting player, even though that sounds like an oxymoron. Chess exciting?
     Since his heady days as a precocious chess talent and towering presence as the seemingly unbeatable world champion, he has become better known as an outspoken critic/dissident of the Russian government. He sides with questionable allies and his political views are not in any way related to his undoubted talent as a chess genius.
    In the video that you presented, Kasparov was not talking about strategy and tactics, he is talking/stuttering his way through heaps of wishful thinking. It's all believe and hope. Bollocks in other words.
    Your still in checkmate yourself, agreeing with Kasparov on his own personal politics is not the same as being Kasparov's chess equal, but you are used to it anyway.

Here is a more recent interview of him.

https://youtu.be/fF_yVv52j_Q?t=38

[gringo]

Here is a more recent interview of him.

https://youtu.be/fF_yVv52j_Q?t=38

   As I say. His mastery of chess - groundbreaking.
                            His political views - groundless.