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Offline Roch

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1395 on: April 03, 2022, 05:08:PM »
David, please note, this is not my response. It is the response published in RT.

I accept no responsibility either for the veracity of the claims made by Ukraine, nor the response to the claims as published in RT.

https://www.rt.com/russia/553231-bucha-war-crimes-allegations-denied/

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« Reply #1396 on: April 03, 2022, 05:53:PM »
David, please note, this is not my response. It is the response published in RT.

I accept no responsibility either for the veracity of the claims made by Ukraine, nor the response to the claims as published in RT.

https://www.rt.com/russia/553231-bucha-war-crimes-allegations-denied/

You are posting links to Russian state media denying their own criminal acts. Well done round of applause!

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« Reply #1397 on: April 03, 2022, 06:00:PM »
Footage from Bucha. In one of the houses, the invaders set up a headquarters with two rooms: in the first there was a torture room, in the second, bounded civilians were shot in the back of the head after torture.

https://v.redd.it/z3r8lovrfbr81/DASH_720.mp4

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« Reply #1398 on: April 03, 2022, 06:08:PM »
You are posting links to Russian state media denying their own criminal acts. Well done round of applause!

So what? Any person who has witnessed previous conflicts unfold in the media in their lifetime can decide whether or not such responses should be given any consideration or not. Since you actively support Palestinians being smashed up, I hardly think you have any moral authority over me.

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« Reply #1399 on: April 03, 2022, 06:55:PM »
So what? Any person who has witnessed previous conflicts unfold in the media in their lifetime can decide whether or not such responses should be given any consideration or not. Since you actively support Palestinians being smashed up, I hardly think you have any moral authority over me.

So, how do you explain the footage and photos of Ukrainian civilians tied up and shot in the areas Russia recently occupied?

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« Reply #1400 on: April 03, 2022, 07:06:PM »
So what? Any person who has witnessed previous conflicts unfold in the media in their lifetime can decide whether or not such responses should be given any consideration or not. Since you actively support Palestinians being smashed up, I hardly think you have any moral authority over me.


Perhaps there should be separate threads for other wars/conflicts?

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« Reply #1401 on: April 03, 2022, 07:07:PM »
So, how do you explain the footage and photos of Ukrainian civilians tied up and shot in the areas Russia recently occupied?

Are you referring to incidents about which there are already posts / links on this thread, or are you referring to other incidents?

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« Reply #1402 on: April 03, 2022, 07:10:PM »

Perhaps there should be separate threads for other wars/conflicts?

Perhaps references to civilians killed in conflicts that we are less likely to focus on should have different threads?  Maybe you are right. Feel free to start such threads.

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« Reply #1403 on: April 03, 2022, 07:15:PM »
Are you referring to incidents about which there are already posts / links on this thread, or are you referring to other incidents?

You know what I am talking about!

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« Reply #1404 on: April 03, 2022, 07:19:PM »
You know what I am talking about!

No, I don't. I have seen one image or video you posted up earlier. If that is the what you're referring to, then why not just say so??
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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1405 on: April 03, 2022, 10:01:PM »
David, please note, this is not my response. It is the response published in RT.

I accept no responsibility either for the veracity of the claims made by Ukraine, nor the response to the claims as published in RT.

https://www.rt.com/russia/553231-bucha-war-crimes-allegations-denied/
But you can't possibly rate Sergei Lavrov as a world statesman as you have done previously. He's Putin's puppet and his theory of a fairer world order lies in tatters. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-26803006

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1406 on: April 03, 2022, 10:23:PM »
But you can't possibly rate Sergei Lavrov as a world statesman as you have done previously. He's Putin's puppet and his theory of a fairer world order lies in tatters. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-26803006

I would class him as being more of a world statesman than Liz Truss; Gavin Williamson; Dominic Raab etc. However, where he has been found wanting and is therefore deserving of criticism, then he should be subject to such criticism.


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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1408 on: April 04, 2022, 09:47:AM »
Moscow calls for extraordinary meeting of UN Security council over Bucha.

https://www.rt.com/russia/553242-bucha-un-security-council/

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1409 on: April 04, 2022, 05:10:PM »
That's a bold statement.

At least Gringo knows better than to say anything. Here you are making an idiot out of yourself.  :))