Russia - worrying?

[Roch]

  I don't. He, is self evidently streets ahead of the intellectual midgets controlling the UK/US etc.

Steve and David won't look so clever when they're sharing a slop bucket in some gulag in the Urals.  That's what you get for slating mother Russia.

[gringo]

Steve and David won't look so clever when they're sharing a slop bucket in some gulag in the Urals.  That's what you get for slating mother Russia.

   It is the colonialist mentality that they don't even acknowledge they hold, Roch. They are fretting (they imagine with independent thought) about the very things that their Imperial masters tell them to worry about.
      Russia bad, smaller economy than Italy, over dependent on gas, dictatorial, Iran bad, blah blah. They do as they are told and imagine that they are independent free thinkers.

[guest7363]

Steve and David won't look so clever when they're sharing a slop bucket in some gulag in the Urals.  That's what you get for slating mother Russia.

I don’t think the Greenback is as strong as it used to be Roch, I don’t mean currency wise, I mean Sanctions, it was always a strong tool to use on lesser Countries, unless things alter its becoming a blunt force?

[Roch]

   It is the colonialist mentality that they don't even acknowledge they hold, Roch. They are fretting (they imagine with independent thought) about the very things that their Imperial masters tell them to worry about.
      Russia bad, smaller economy than Italy, over dependent on gas, dictatorial, Iran bad, blah blah. They do as they are told and imagine that they are independent free thinkers.

I did recognise this myself  . It's not that those other countries are great bastions of everything that is good, it's just that 'our' countries that feed Steve and Dave's opinions are pretty bad in many aspects in their own right.

[Roch]

I don’t think the Greenback is as strong as it used to be Roch, I don’t mean currency wise, I mean Sanctions, it was always a strong tool to use on lesser Countries, unless things alter its becoming a blunt force?

I'm not sure RJ, you may be right. I just wish the world could get on. Now I sound like a Miss World contestant who likes animals and wants 'world peace' 

[gringo]

I don’t think the Greenback is as strong as it used to be Roch, I don’t mean currency wise, I mean Sanctions, it was always a strong tool to use on lesser Countries, unless things alter its becoming a blunt force?

   Sanctions are an overused and now backfiring ploy to bully smaller and weaker countries. The rest of the world have had enough of Western bullying and the rise and obvious collaboration over many years of Russia, China and Iran is now way too strong in every way to succumb to Western bullying. The Western Imperialists have no more tools left to use.
      Karma is a bitch. 

[gringo]

I'm not sure RJ, you may be right. I just wish the world could get on. Now I sound like a Miss World contestant who likes animals and wants 'world peace' 

    This is all everybody wants, except our colonialist masters who want to control everything. We will all be better served when the Western imperialists are put back in their box and their rampage for world domination is finally defeated.
    The time will soon enough come that neither David, Steve nor anybody else will be able to, nor want to deny Western crimes. Events will force this change soon enough.

[David1819]

I would agree but, I’m wrong if I agree and I’m wrong if I disagree 😂😂😂. But I agree anyway 100%

This topic has become a conspiratard cesspit.

[gringo]

This topic has become a conspiratard cesspit.

  It's above your reading and comprehension level.

[guest7363]

I'm not sure RJ, you may be right. I just wish the world could get on. Now I sound like a Miss World contestant who likes animals and wants 'world peace' 

I agree Roch, (not that you sound like Miss World) keep doing what your doing mate and get out and about.  That’s why I’ve become a plant eater 😂😂🙈. I’m just gluing myself to the M25 until we have world order 🙈

[Roch]

I agree Roch, (not that you sound like Miss World) keep doing what your doing mate and get out and about.  That’s why I’ve become a plant eater 😂😂🙈. I’m just gluing myself to the M25 until we have world order 🙈

Was seriously thinking of ditching most meat again myself. Would prefer to have it as a treat, purchased from the best animal welfare sources etc. Re walking, don't get out anywhere near as much as should. Well done with your biking, commendable. 👍

[gringo]

I did recognise this myself  . It's not that those other countries are great bastions of everything that is good, it's just that 'our' countries that feed Steve and Dave's opinions are pretty bad in many aspects in their own right.

    The UK and the US are easily the world's no.1 warmongers. The trail of destruction this century alone since 9/11 has seen millions killed, countless millions displaced causing a massive refugee crisis, country after country destroyed by bombing, invasion and occupation. The death toll is surely beyond counting by now. You don't get to lecture other countries on Human Rights with a record like ours.
     The most basic human right is the right to life. Too many have been murdered in our name for us to lecture Iran, Russia, China or anybody else. Not a single country that we have targeted is anywhere near the level of criminality displayed by US/UK and their merry band of vassals, satraps and hangers on.

[gringo]

     A few developments lately that emphasise the obvious long term collaboration and planning of China, Russia, Iran and others to arrive at the position we are in today. The acceptance of Iran as a full member of the SCO, the huge 25 year 400 billion deal between Iran and China, the alliance between Russia and China to counter Empire. A
     The development of weapons and defence systems in all of these countries has been geared towards defending against a peer rival. They have been able to concentrate on this development whilst the US/UK NATO have been spending their ill gotten gains on Aircraft carriers, overpriced jets and munitions required to invade and subdue small and weak countries.
      Their not very subtle plan to isolate Russia and China in order to be able to pick them off one at a time ran out of time.
     In the great game of geopolitical chess we have created threats all over the board, all have been countered successfully and we are now overstretched, in check, and checkmate is imminent.
    History is a narrative not a series of random events. The invasions of the last 20/30 years were planned. They were not as a result of Saddam having WMD, Taliban sheltering Bin Laden or whatever piss poor excuse was given by our overlords and gobbled up by apologists like David. We don't live in a democratic country because we have no say in whether our countries blood and treasure is spent to spill the blood and steal the treasure of other countries. If we did have a say, none of these wars would happen in our name unless we put David in charge.
    Missile and Air Defence technology of Russia, China and even Iran has made Western tech obsolete. Try parking your aircraft carrier strike group within strike range of any of those countries and see what happens. Not that we will see that, because our military planners know exactly what would happen. The planes would be shot down, the missiles intercepted and any planes that did manage to return would have no aircraft carrier to land on.
    The Western Imperialists are way behind on missile tech and air defence, never saw it coming and are now attempting a series of Hail Mary's and ramping up the propaganda for the domestic audience but the writing is on the wall.
   
   

[Roch]

     A few developments lately that emphasise the obvious long term collaboration and planning of China, Russia, Iran and others to arrive at the position we are in today. The acceptance of Iran as a full member of the SCO, the huge 25 year 400 billion deal between Iran and China, the alliance between Russia and China to counter Empire. A
     The development of weapons and defence systems in all of these countries has been geared towards defending against a peer rival. They have been able to concentrate on this development whilst the US/UK NATO have been spending their ill gotten gains on Aircraft carriers, overpriced jets and munitions required to invade and subdue small and weak countries.
      Their not very subtle plan to isolate Russia and China in order to be able to pick them off one at a time ran out of time.
     In the great game of geopolitical chess we have created threats all over the board, all have been countered successfully and we are now overstretched, in check, and checkmate is imminent.
    History is a narrative not a series of random events. The invasions of the last 20/30 years were planned. They were not as a result of Saddam having WMD, Taliban sheltering Bin Laden or whatever piss poor excuse was given by our overlords and gobbled up by apologists like David. We don't live in a democratic country because we have no say in whether our countries blood and treasure is spent to spill the blood and steal the treasure of other countries. If we did have a say, none of these wars would happen in our name unless we put David in charge.
    Missile and Air Defence technology of Russia, China and even Iran has made Western tech obsolete. Try parking your aircraft carrier strike group within strike range of any of those countries and see what happens. Not that we will see that, because our military planners know exactly what would happen. The planes would be shot down, the missiles intercepted and any planes that did manage to return would have no aircraft carrier to land on.
    The Western Imperialists are way behind on missile tech and air defence, never saw it coming and are now attempting a series of Hail Mary's and ramping up the propaganda for the domestic audience but the writing is on the wall.
   
   

Enjoyed reading that.

[gringo]

Enjoyed reading that.

   It is unfortunate, Roch, that our fourth estate is so failing in its duty to speak truth to power and is in fact in the service of power, that it hasn't already been said multiple times. You know this already though.