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Offline David1819

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #390 on: August 25, 2020, 12:47:AM »
   More idiotic CIA/MI5 propaganda.

Aljazeera is CIA/MI5 propaganda? Who would have known!  ::)

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #391 on: August 25, 2020, 02:07:AM »
Aljazeera is CIA/MI5 propaganda? Who would have known!  ::)
    Don't misrepresent me, David.
   Al jazeera whilst good on many issues has it's obvious biases. Do you know who owns it? Or the interests that they represent? The rivalries and alliances?
    It is owned by the Al Thani family (google it)
    Their sympathies lie with the Muslim Brotherhood (again google it)
    Al jazeera are only reporting what they are told.
    Do you honestly believe that Putin or the Russian state had anything to do with this? There are much cleaner and easier ways to kill people with total plausible deniability than ridiculous poisonings. You no doubt believe the ridiculous Salisbury hoax and that two Russians on a tourist visa smeared a supposed deadly nerve agent on a door handle before going window shopping for a couple of hours in Salisbury. I doubt that you even consider where the missing Skripals are now. No proof of life from the UK government but nothing suspicious there just move along. Isn't this Russian poisoning shit getting a bit tired and stale now. Intelligence agencies clearly lack creativity these days. I blame the public school education.
     That you still appear to believe that Russia rather than US/UK/NATO are the aggressors demonstrates that you are not really paying sufficient attention to the aggressive behaviour and language of your own government.
     You see the beam in the eye of the Russians but ignore the mote in the eye of NATO.
     You need to worry about your own government dragging us into wars. We are way more imperialistic brutal and warmongering. Russia don't need to control other countries natural reserves, they've got plenty of their own. It is our Govt's who covet Russia's resources, not vice versa
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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #392 on: August 25, 2020, 08:25:AM »
Do you honestly believe that Putin or the Russian state had anything to do with this?


I never said they did  ???

There are much cleaner and easier ways to kill people with total plausible deniability than ridiculous poisonings

Well yes, the death of Alexander Perepilichny could be one example. But when poison is used like this, its out of spite, they don't just want to kill or harm they want to set an example. Whoever decided to use Polonium on Alexander Litvinenko wanted him to suffer greatly.
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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #393 on: August 25, 2020, 08:29:AM »
I'm afraid it's ominously redolent of an elected dictatorship, as occurs to a greater extent in China, but Russia is heading for totalitarianism all the same. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51120166

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« Reply #394 on: August 25, 2020, 08:42:AM »
I'm afraid it's ominously redolent of an elected dictatorship, as occurs to a greater extent in China, but Russia is heading for totalitarianism all the same. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51120166

Russia has done very well under Putin. His biggest opposition is the Russian communist party and most Russians are wise enough not to give them another chance in power.
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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #395 on: August 25, 2020, 09:11:AM »
David, are you an American asset, operating in the UK?  What's your code name - 'Cruise' (as in missile or Tom).

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« Reply #396 on: August 25, 2020, 09:31:AM »
David, are you an American asset, operating in the UK?  What's your code name - 'Cruise' (as in missile or Tom).

Yes. I am employed by NASA/Area 51. Assigned to the UK to go around abducting sheep in my flying saucer. They pay well and the burger king is nice so wont be going back to my home galaxy any time soon.
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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #397 on: August 25, 2020, 09:38:AM »
Russia has done very well under Putin. His biggest opposition is the Russian communist party and most Russians are wise enough not to give them another chance in power.
He rode the oil price increase and is heavily dependent on that commodity along with gas. The economy itself is smaller than Italy's.

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« Reply #398 on: August 25, 2020, 10:11:AM »
He rode the oil price increase and is heavily dependent on that commodity along with gas. The economy itself is smaller than Italy's.

A country is heavily dependant on its natural resources? How odd!

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« Reply #399 on: August 25, 2020, 10:26:AM »
Yes. I am employed by NASA/Area 51. Assigned to the UK to go around abducting sheep in my flying saucer. They pay well and the burger king is nice so wont be going back to my home galaxy any time soon.

I'm not sure why you link me to UFO's. It's not a topic I have given any attention to.

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« Reply #400 on: August 25, 2020, 10:31:AM »
I'm not sure why you link me to UFO's. It's not a topic I have given any attention to.

You cited Richard Hall as credible source. That's what I ended up reading  :))

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« Reply #401 on: August 25, 2020, 10:39:AM »
He rode the oil price increase and is heavily dependent on that commodity along with gas. The economy itself is smaller than Italy's.
   You know very little of Russia, Steve, and what little you do know is the repeated talking points of western intelligence agencies through the media. Since the heavy sanctions Russia has become self reliant in many areas, the agriculture especially has grown.
    As I have already pointed out, it is not Russia who covets our natural resources. It is the West acting aggressively, not Russia. You are easily led by misinformation via a controlled media.
    It is laughable to be told that Russia are killing journalists and censoring media by Western presstitutes who seem to have forgotten that the most famous case of state censorship and oppression of journalism is taking place under their noses and with their full connivance. Julian Assange anyone.
    It is a great big elephant in the room with an 800lb gorilla on its back. Those guilty of the persecution of Assange, or of turning a blind eye to it, have zero credibility to lecture about press freedom.

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« Reply #402 on: August 25, 2020, 10:40:AM »
A country is heavily dependant on its natural resources? How odd!
Germany and Japan in contrast to Russia have very few natural resources yet much stronger economies.

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« Reply #403 on: August 25, 2020, 10:56:AM »
You cited Richard Hall as credible source. That's what I ended up reading  :))

Having an interest in UFO's doesn't diminish Richard Hall's credibility as a source regarding the Thomas Mair case.

Your curious neocon sympathies don't diminish your research in the Bamber case. I wouldn't conflate the two, save perhaps, some bias on your part regarding trust in the authorities.

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« Reply #404 on: August 25, 2020, 11:19:AM »
   You know very little of Russia, Steve, and what little you do know is the repeated talking points of western intelligence agencies through the media. Since the heavy sanctions Russia has become self reliant in many areas, the agriculture especially has grown.
    As I have already pointed out, it is not Russia who covets our natural resources. It is the West acting aggressively, not Russia. You are easily led by misinformation via a controlled media.
    It is laughable to be told that Russia are killing journalists and censoring media by Western presstitutes who seem to have forgotten that the most famous case of state censorship and oppression of journalism is taking place under their noses and with their full connivance. Julian Assange anyone.
    It is a great big elephant in the room with an 800lb gorilla on its back. Those guilty of the persecution of Assange, or of turning a blind eye to it, have zero credibility to lecture about press freedom.

Ah yes. Russia is a safe haven for the likes of Assange.

https://cpj.org/data/killed/europe/russia/?status=Killed&motiveConfirmed%5B%5D=Confirmed&type%5B%5D=Journalist&cc_fips%5B%5D=RS&start_year=1992&end_year=2020&group_by=location


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