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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2685 on: April 02, 2023, 05:23:PM »
What else is happening in Tankie fantasy world?
      Glad you ask  ::) ::)
      Since "Tankie fantasy world" is an obvious euphemism for objective reality. A few more developments in the objective reality world.

      The increasing diplomacy in the Middle East/West Asia is incredible and unfolding at breakneck speed. Syrian President, Bashar Al Assad, no longer isolated and renewing diplomatic relations with all the Arab states previously lined up with US attempts to isolate Iran and Syria. That ship has sailed. US/NATO days in the Middle east are numbered. China/Russia have upended Western Imperialism in West Asia.
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/03/28/us-occupiers-lash-out-as-syria-war-draws-to-an-end/

      A few highlights from the above demonstrating the predicament that the US occupiers and by extension, the Zionist occupiers of Palestine also face;

    Washington is worried about a peace between Damascus and its estranged Arab neighbors — as well as Turkey — that is marginalizing the U.S. and its allies, writes M.K. Bhadrakumar.

There is optimism that Syria stands to gain from the Saudi-Iranian rapprochement. Already, the Saudi Foreign Ministry has revealed  that talks are going on with Syria for resuming consular services between the two countries, which will pave the way for the resumption of diplomatic relations, making it possible to reinstate Syria’s membership of the Arab League...
The backdrop is that the normalization of relations between Syria and its estranged Arab neighbors has accelerated. It must be particularly galling for Washington that these regional states used to be active participants in the U.S.-led regime change project to overthrow the government of President Bashar al-Assad. The Saudi-Iranian rapprochement badly isolates the U.S. and Israel.

From such a perspective, it stands to reason that the U.S. is once again stirring up the Syrian cauldron as Russian aircraft have been reported to be frequently flying over the U.S. military base At Tanf on the Syrian-Iraqi border where training camps for militant groups are known to exist...
Israel too is a stakeholder in keeping Syria unstable and weak. In the Israeli narrative, Iran-backed militia groups have been increasing their capability in Syria in the last two years and the continued U.S. occupation of Syria is vital for balancing these groups. Israel is paranoid that a strong government in Damascus might start challenging its illegal occupation of the Golan Heights.

A key factor in this matrix is the nascent process of Russian mediation between Turkey and Syria. With an eye on the forthcoming presidential and parliamentary election in Turkey in May, President Recep Erdogan is keen to achieve some visible progress in improving ties with Syria...
Turkey is a straggler when other the West Asian countries are normalizing their relations with Damascus. But Assad is demanding the removal of Turkish occupation of Syrian territory first for resuming ties with Ankara.

Now, there are growing signs that Erdogan may be willing to bite the bullet...
Significantly, Erdogan telephoned Russian President Vladimir Putin on Saturday and the Kremlin readout mentioned that amongst “topics concerning Russian-Turkish partnership in various fields,” during the conversation, “the Syrian issue was touched upon, and the importance of continuing the normalization of Turkish-Syrian relations was underlined. In this regard the President of Türkiye highlighted the constructive mediatory role Russia has played in this process.”

Earlier, last week, Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar held telephone talks with his Russian counterpart Sergei Shoigu to discuss developments in Syria where he underscored that the “sole purpose” of its deployment in northern Syria is to secure its borders and fight terrorism.

It is entirely conceivable that Erdogan has sought Putin’s help and his intervention to reach a modus vivendi with Assad. Of course, this is a spectacular success story for Russian diplomacy — and for Putin personally — that the Kremlin is being called upon to broker the Turkish-Syrian normalization.

The China-brokered, Saudi-Iranian normalization hit Washington where it hurts. But if Putin now brokers peace between two other rival West Asian states, Biden will be exposed as hopelessly incompetent.

If Turkey ends its military presence in Syria, the spotlight will fall on the U.S.’ illegal occupation of one-third of Syrian territory and the massive smuggling of oil and other resources from Syria in American military convoys.


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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2686 on: April 02, 2023, 05:23:PM »
Why Finland Joining NATO Checkmates Russia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si9Phc9ArpU

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« Reply #2687 on: April 02, 2023, 05:31:PM »
Why Russia is Scared of Finland Joining NATO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAlfP_CzrfM

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« Reply #2688 on: April 02, 2023, 06:06:PM »
    So you imagine that Russia can now be invaded from Finland. How would that happen? I watched 5 mins of your link and it was so shallow and lacking in any understanding it is laughable.
    How would all these troops amass in Finland without being obliterated by stand off capacity? The commentator in your link seems to believe an invasion of Russia from Finland is a possibility. The only use Finland can serve to NATO is as an attempt to defeat and decapitate Russian nuclear deterrence with a first strike. Russia will destroy any missile silos/bases placed in Finland. We will see how the Finnish population feel about missiles on their territory threatening Russia when shit gets real. It won't happen. The Finns threatening Russia ;D ;D
     Ukraine has already ceased to exist as a functioning state and will be at best a rump state. Those that have already left (millions) won't be returning. It is doomed to die a demographic death. Completely demilitarised and neutered as a threat as well as de-industrialised and having lost it's most productive and resource rich areas-Ukraine will be a salutary warning to anyone in the queue to threaten Russia.
     There are way more important events happening in the world at the moment than Finland joining? NATO. There is a whole multipolar world being birthed at breathtaking speed. The turning away from the West towards the alliances created by China, Russia et al. is impossible to ignore.
     
      https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/3/22/xi-tells-putin-of-changes-not-seen-for-100

     It seems that President Xi (world's largest manufacturer and economy) and President Putin (world's pre-eminent military/nuclear superpower) are also inhabitants of "Tankie fantasy world".

    “Right now there are changes – the likes of which we haven’t seen for 100 years – and we are the ones driving these changes together,” Xi told Putin as he stood at the door of the Kremlin to bid him farewell.

The Russian president responded: “I agree.”

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2689 on: April 02, 2023, 06:25:PM »
It's always good to know what's happening in Tankie fantasy world. Readers here need a good laugh.

In Tankie fantasy world Russia was forcing NATO into withdrawing to its 1997 borders when in reality it expands its borders on Russia by 800 miles.

Comedy gold 😂

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2690 on: April 03, 2023, 09:52:PM »
It's always good to know what's happening in Tankie fantasy world. Readers here need a good laugh.

In Tankie fantasy world Russia was forcing NATO into withdrawing to its 1997 borders when in reality it expands its borders on Russia by 800 miles.

Comedy gold 😂

Whats "Tankie fantasy world" ?

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« Reply #2691 on: April 04, 2023, 01:26:AM »
It's always good to know what's happening in Tankie fantasy world. Readers here need a good laugh.

In Tankie fantasy world Russia was forcing NATO into withdrawing to its 1997 borders when in reality it expands its borders on Russia by 800 miles.

Comedy gold 😂
    In reality- Ukraine has lost its most resource rich and industrial areas accounting for about a third of the Ukrainian economy with zero chance of them returning to Ukraine. Millions have left the country to Europe and Russia-most unlikely to return. Hundreds of thousands dead and injured, indebted for billions, most industry and resources gone for good, army, navy, air force all destroyed.
    Whilst all this unfolds the world outside of NATO are signing huge deals left, right and centre bypassing the dollar. The world is clearly flocking to the Chinese, Russian led world.
    The bar for NATOstanis to claim some sort of victory seems to be getting lower. Finland have joined NATO. Rest of the world(China, Saudis, Iran, Russia, UAE, Syria, Turkiye, South Africa, Russia, Mexico, Argentina, Brazil and on and on) signing deals and cooperation agreements, queueing up to join BRICS+(now larger economically than G7-before coming expansions), SCO, ASEAN.
    Africans kicking out the French and bringing in Russian Wagner group(eg. Mali, Central African Republic). Western imperialism is being ended globally. These are observable facts on the ground. Where are all the gains for the Western bloc. It is self evident who is expanding in influence and who is losing influence.
    Finland joined NATO-you say. That'll show the rest of the world outside delusional NATOstan  :-[ :-[
    If Finland  ;D ;D joining is your headline win-it is safe to say that NATO has already lost

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« Reply #2692 on: April 04, 2023, 01:39:AM »
It's always good to know what's happening in Tankie fantasy world. Readers here need a good laugh.

In Tankie fantasy world Russia was forcing NATO into withdrawing to its 1997 borders when in reality it expands its borders on Russia by 800 miles.

Comedy gold 😂
   Is expanding to Russia's borders something that you support? Do you not consider it dangerously aggressive? What are the benefits for NATO members citizens to expand further towards the worlds largest nuclear superpower?
     You must have a death wish if you support our "foreign policy". You are easily led for certain.

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« Reply #2693 on: April 04, 2023, 12:36:PM »
"Finland's accession is a setback for Russia's Vladimir Putin, who repeatedly complained of Nato's expansion before his full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

The length of Russia's border with Nato member states has now doubled."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65173043

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« Reply #2694 on: April 04, 2023, 12:39:PM »
Is this you on Twitter Gringo?  :))


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« Reply #2695 on: April 04, 2023, 12:47:PM »
   Is expanding to Russia's borders something that you support?

Yes

  Do you not consider it dangerously aggressive?

No

   What are the benefits for NATO members citizens to expand further towards the worlds largest nuclear shithole?
   

They no longer have to fear Russian irredentism. Which is why they seek to join in the first place.

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« Reply #2696 on: April 04, 2023, 01:38:PM »
Yes

No

They no longer have to fear Russian irredentism. Which is why they seek to join in the first place.
    You just demonstrate your stupidity with every post. Russia aren't playing your childish video war games. You don't get to reset and start again. Your views and opinions on serious matters demonstrate that you are a man-child. You need to grow up. Supporting aggression against the world's pre-eminent nuclear power shouldn't be supported by anyone who understands anything at all.
     You should read more and play childish games less. You might have something constructive to add then. Your contributions so far have added nothing.

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« Reply #2697 on: April 04, 2023, 02:07:PM »
Whats "Tankie fantasy world" ?
    "Tankie" is a term used by flag shagging right wing morons as an attempted insult to anyone vaguely left wing. It just means the person using the term has a childish mentality and thinks childish playground name calling is a substitute for debate/discussion. David has nothing to say so just trolls the thread with insults.

The term tankie has been used in English-language social media to describe communists, particularly those from the Western world, who uphold the legacies of communist leaders, such as Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong.

     David just throws terms around like, Tankie, conspiritard to anyone he disagrees with but is incapable of challenging. The thread is full of David's witless contributions of the same insults and idiotic gifs repeatedly whilst waving his dumb flag as if it is a football match. All of David's contributions mean nothing.

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« Reply #2698 on: April 04, 2023, 03:25:PM »
A single childish gif that expresses the truth will always hold more value that a long winded essay of bullshit  8)

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2699 on: April 04, 2023, 04:11:PM »
I'm surprised he hasn't called you a commutard.