Author Topic: Russia - worrying?  (Read 363331 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline David1819

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13781
Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2100 on: September 26, 2022, 06:43:AM »
Russian are now forced to sign this document to flee to Georgia  :))




Offline David1819

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13781
Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2101 on: September 26, 2022, 06:05:PM »
Russian man shoots officer drafting residents for war in Ukraine. Another man sets himself on fire as protests at Putin’s partial mobilisation continue.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/26/russia-man-shoots-commander-drafting-residents-for-war-in-ukraine

Unfortunately for Gringo, both these events were caught on film.

Offline David1819

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13781
Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2102 on: September 26, 2022, 06:48:PM »

Offline David1819

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13781
Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2103 on: September 26, 2022, 08:08:PM »
Ukraine's 79th airborne brigade artillery destroying several Russian armoured vehicles and the aftermath

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/xoh1cz/ukraines_79th_airborne_brigade_artillery/

Offline David1819

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13781
Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2104 on: September 26, 2022, 08:12:PM »
Anger builds amid Russia's military call up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAzfOYDssko

Offline gringo

  • Veteran Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3414
Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2105 on: September 26, 2022, 08:24:PM »
https://thesaker.is/foreign-minister-sergey-lavrovs-remarks-at-a-meeting-of-the-un-security-council-on-ukraine-new-york/


     Lavrov speech to UNSC today above. A few highlights transcribed(in red) below. The whole thing worth a read becaise this is the sort of thing our media hides from us. Raises too many questions for which we have no answer. Hence the relentless one sided propaganda from our government and media and amplified by flag waving half-wits like David.


The crimes committed in Maidan Square in February 2014 have gone unpunished to this day. Those guilty of the monstrous tragedy in Odessa on May 2, 2014 have not been found and punished. During this tragedy, about 50 people were burned alive and killed in the local House of Trade Unions. The political assassinations of Oles Buzina, Pavel Sheremet and other public figures and journalists are in the same category. Despite this, attempts are being made to impose on us a completely different narrative about Russian aggression as the prime cause for these problems.
   


    For those seemingly bothered by the partial Russian mobilisation and what it indicates. As mentioned below, Ukraine has carried out total mobilisation. Many of those Ukrainian refugees are in reality males fleeing the draft. There was plenty of footage of Ukrainian press gangs and men being stopped fleeing the country. Ukraine is on its third or fourth wave of mobilisation. Women and old men. NATO propaganda neglects to mention any of this.


They called all those who objected to the results of the coup terrorists. For eight years, the Kiev regime conducted a “military operation” against peaceful civilians in Donbass. For a long time now, Ukraine has been carrying out the total mobilisation of adults, including women, to recruit them into nationalist battalions and the Ukrainian armed forces.

    The following demonstrates the duplicity of Ukraine and its Western sponsors. They never intended to fulfil the Minsk accords and used them cynically to buy time and implement Plan B(the military brutally subduing and killing their own.

At some point, when he got tired of pretending, Zelensky said that the only thing the Minsk Package of Measures was needed for was to keep the sanctions on Russia in place. His predecessor in office and co-author of the Minsk agreements, Poroshenko, was even more outspoken. A couple of months ago, he publicly and proudly stated that neither he nor anyone in Ukraine planned on fulfilling the agreements he had signed. They were needed only to buy time to receive weapons from the Western countries for war with the Russian Federation. Ukraine’s National Security and Defence Council Secretary Aleksey Danilov spoke along the same lines.

The Kiev regime owes its impunity to its Western curators, primarily Germany and France, and of course, the United States. Instead of pressing Kiev into complying with the Minsk agreements, Berlin and Paris cynically turned a blind eye to Kiev’s open threats to resolve the “Donbass problem” forcefully, the so-called plan B.


     

Offline gringo

  • Veteran Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3414
Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2106 on: September 26, 2022, 08:32:PM »
     Lavrov's closing remarks worth noting. The issues raised about Bucha are very telling. Any light shone on this or any investigation would immediately show that those Ukrainian citizens were murdered for the purpose of a false flag to blame on Russia. They were murdered by Ukrainian Nazis with the complicity of Western intel agencies.
     Western silence and refusal of independent investigation shows this.

Once again, I would like you to take note of the following: Russian and Ukrainian negotiators almost agreed on the settlement terms proposed by Kiev in Istanbul in late March, but tragic events unfolded in Bucha a couple of days later. No one has any doubts that it was a staged performance. Right after this staged act became publicly known, our Western colleagues went hysterical and imposed another package of sanctions on the Russian Federation accusing us of killing civilians. No one has ever mentioned Bucha since the time this propagandistic effect was achieved. No one, but us. Once again, in the presence of the Secretary-General and esteemed ministers, I’m asking you to please get the Ukrainian authorities to take the elementary step of releasing the names of the people whose corpses were shown in Bucha. I’ve been asking for this for several months now. No one seems to hear me or is willing to respond.

Mr Secretary-General,

Please, use your authority to get this done. I think everyone will benefit from clearing up this episode.

The increased activity of international justice in relation to Ukraine has come to our attention. Obscure “efforts” to investigate crimes in Ukraine that are ascribed to the Russian military are being touted, which is undoubtedly a put-up job, which we clearly see.

No intelligible responses have been issued from the International Criminal Court (ICC) in the wake of the 2014 bloody coup in Kiev, the Odessa tragedy of May 2, 2014, the shelling of peaceful cities in Donbass, the bombing of Lugansk by warplanes on June 2, 2014, or multiple other incidents. Over 3,000 reports of crimes against residents of Donbass have been sent to the ICC. There was no response. Clearly, the senior officials from this “judicial body” have received a command from on high to step up their activities. This body has lost its credibility with us. For eight long years we have been hoping in vain for someone to start fighting the impunity in Ukraine. We are no longer counting on seeing justice from this or a number of other international agencies. We are finished waiting.

Everything I said goes to show once again that the decision to conduct a special military operation was unavoidable. We have said this more than once. We have presented volumes of factual evidence proving that Ukraine was preparing to play the role of the “anti-Russia” and was being used as a springboard for creating and implementing threats against Russia’s security. I am here to assure you that we will not let this happen.


Offline David1819

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13781
Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2107 on: September 26, 2022, 08:50:PM »
Gringo, is the Russian guy who poured petrol over himself before setting himself on fire to avoid conscription a CIA actor?  :))

Offline gringo

  • Veteran Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3414
Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2108 on: September 26, 2022, 09:15:PM »
     Pepe Escobar's latest. A sobering view of the state the west is in.

The SCO in Samarkand and the UN General Assembly have demonstrated how virtually the whole Global South outside of NATOstan does not demonize Russia.

Geopolitical tectonic plates are reelin’ and rockin’, and the sound is heard all around the world, as the twin baby bears DPR and LPR plus Kherson and Zaporozhye vote on their referendums. Irretrievable fact: by the end of next week Russia most certainly will be on the way to add over 100,000 km2 and over 5 million people to the Federation.

Denis Pushilin, head of the DPR, summed it all up: “We’re going home”. The baby bears are coming to Mama.

Coupled with the partial mobilization of up to 300,000 Russian reservists – arguably just a first phase – the raise-the-stakes consequences are immense. Exit the previous soft format of the Special Military Operation (SMO): enter serious kinetic war, not hybrid, against any actor, vassal or otherwise, that dares to attack Russian territory.

There’s a very short window of Chinese-coined crisis/opportunity for the collective West, or NATOstan, to negotiate. They won’t. Even as anyone with an IQ over room temperature knows that the only way for the Empire of Chaos/Lies/Plunder to “win” – outside of the cover of The Economist – would be by launching a first-strike flurry of tactical nuclear weapons, which would meet a devastating Russian response.

The Kremlin knows it – President Putin has publicly alluded to it; the Russian General Staff (RGS) knows it; the Chinese know it (and have called, also publicly, for negotiations).

Instead, we have hysterical Russophobia reaching a paroxysm. And from the deer-caught-in-the-headlights vassals, an extra toxic sludge of fear and loathing.

Implications have been sharply and rationally addressed at The Saker and by Andrei Martyanov. On the realm of social network “influencing” – a key component of hybrid war – cheap entertainment has been provided by everyone from frightened Eurocrats to crappy retired U.S. generals threatening a “devastating strike” against the Black Sea Fleet “if Vladimir Putin uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine”.

One of these specimens is a mere P.R. front man for an Atlanticist think tank. He was properly disposed of by the now totally unplugged deputy head of Russia’s Security Council, Dmitry Medvedev: “Retired idiots with general’s stripes do not need to scare us with talk about a NATO strike on Crimea.”


      Full article below:

https://thesaker.is/all-the-young-dudes-carry-the-russian-news/

Offline gringo

  • Veteran Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3414
Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2109 on: September 26, 2022, 10:40:PM »
While I was there, I saw the Iraqi soldiers come into the hospital with guns. They took the babies out of the incubators, [sniffs] took the incubators, and left the children to die on the cold floor.

    Who can forget this gem? Part of the testimony of the young lady who introduced herself as Nayirah, "a volunteer nurse from Kuwait" to the, "United States Congressional Human Rights Caucus. Part of the war atrocity propaganda used to launch Gulf War 1.
    Either no shame or a sick sense of irony, using a Human Rights Caucus as a platform for an aggressive war. Probably both.
    It turned out that she was the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to the US.
    David would have definitely believed it and would believe its equivalent today, as he demonstrates with every single post.

    This was widely believed by the vast majority of Western populations at the time despite it's obvious implausibility. Bullshit such as this has long been the MO of the criminal Western governments to give the "veil of legitimacy" to their already planned illegal wars of aggression. Now that hindsight has shown everybody the many lies previously told by western governments and media it should teach everyone to treat outlandish claims with somewhat more scepticism. We have no excuse now with so many previous lies exposed. The constant lessons requiring the benefit of hindsight should have taught us all to start applying a little more foresight.
     Banning Russian media and then making outlandish claims about Russia and Russian behaviour, quickly dropped and never investigated, is so obviously propaganda that those falling for it will be embarrassed at having done so when enough time elapses for facts and the benefit of hindsight to expose what are obvious lies in the service of narrative control and the manufacturing of consent.

     

Offline David1819

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13781
Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2110 on: September 27, 2022, 04:19:AM »
New satellite images showing large numbers of Russians fleeing to Georgia and Mongolia have been released after Vladimir Putin's order to mobilise hundreds of thousands of reservists for the conflict in Ukraine.


https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-images-show-10-miles-of-queues-as-russians-flee-vladimir-putins-call-up-to-fight-12705978

"And according to Maxar, which has been tracking the conflict from its satellites, the queue to cross into Georgia stretches for well over 10 miles (16km)."

Offline David1819

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13781
Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2111 on: September 27, 2022, 06:57:AM »
quickly dropped and never investigated, is so obviously propaganda that those falling for it will be embarrassed at having done so when enough time elapses for facts and the benefit of hindsight to expose what are obvious lies in the service of narrative control and the manufacturing of consent.

Like all those alleged biological weapons labs in Ukraine?

https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/05/1118232

« Last Edit: September 27, 2022, 07:08:AM by David1819 »

Offline David1819

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13781
Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2112 on: September 27, 2022, 07:13:AM »
Deputy Mufti of the Crimean Muftiat makes an appeal to Crimean Muslims and to all Muslims in Russia, who are facing mobilization - "Find various ways to surrender," "but if you cannot do this, then I know where you ought to shoot. And I think you also understand."

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/xoko1u/deputy_mufti_of_the_crimean_muftiat_makes_an/

Offline lookout

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 48676
Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2113 on: September 27, 2022, 08:31:AM »
Many Muslims were some of the first to flee to Georgia. The rest I imagine fled to Turkey.

Offline David1819

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13781
Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #2114 on: September 27, 2022, 10:17:AM »
Many Muslims were some of the first to flee to Georgia. The rest I imagine fled to Turkey.

The Chechens could turn on Putin also.