The main prosecution forensic case

[lookout]

Is that why you submitted you're summary. Twice.

That'll be because he's wavering/dithering.

[Adam]

Unfortunately Adam I havent - sorry. I admit that I tend to skip most of your posts. I cannot describe how either Jeremy or Sheila committed the murders as fortunately I wasn't there. I can specualate on a scenario involving each of them,but admit to finding problems in both,hence I cannot decide conclusively which of them was responsible. Hope this answers your question.

What a pity. The deadline was extended for you. In case you had not read the threads.

You cannot give a view of how Sheila may have committed the massacre in a ten minute period. Although detailed evidence of phone call times, body locations, bullet allocations, re loads and kitchen fight injuries are available.

PM me if you wish to have some moral support prior to dismissing Jeremy's claims of innocence.

[Alias]

Is that why you submitted you're summary. Twice.

You are so unkind to the only poster who was willing to go along with your request. Let it be a lesson learnt: Never try to humour Adam, it will only result in an attack. We have seen it before....

[Adam]

You are so unkind to the only poster who was willing to go along with your request. Let it be a lesson learnt: Never try to humour Adam, it will only result in an attack. We have seen it before....

I praised David for trying.

Because his attempts were unsuccessful he is now saying it is 'not pragmatic' to suggest how Sheila committed the massacre. On a discussion forum ?

[David1819]

I praised David for trying.

Because his attempts were unsuccessful he is now saying it is 'not pragmatic' to suggest how Sheila committed the massacre. On a discussion forum ?

Adam your whole deadline thing is nothing but a childish stunt of yours. no one cares

[tyler]

What a pity. The deadline was extended for you. In case you had not read the threads.

You cannot give a view of how Sheila may have committed the massacre in a ten minute period. Although detailed evidence of phone call times, body locations, bullet allocations, re loads and kitchen fight injuries are available.

PM me if you wish to have some moral support prior to dismissing Jeremy's claims of innocence.

Lol

[Jane]

Adam your whole deadline thing is nothing but a childish stunt of yours. no one cares

Par for the course, don't you think, if a a close to 70 year old is attempting to pose as a just over 17 year old who's trying to be funny??? :D

[lookout]

His 17 is probably 71.

[Jane]

His 17 is probably 71.

Heheheeee Smart thinking, lookout

[tyler]

His 17 is probably 71.

Dyscalculia perhaps? 

[Jane]

Dyscalculia perhaps? 

Nah, that's my problem......................and I'm not sharing it with Adam

[lookout]

Dyscalculia perhaps? 

And that.

[scipio_usmc]

The Killer,after shooting June whilst she were in bed,COULD have been distracted by having to chase Nevill downstairs,which woud have left June alone. She may have made her way around the bed for many reasons, such as she may,in her shocked state,have forgotten the bedroom phone was no longer there. There may have been a phone there that was removed prior to the murders. She may have been on her way to check on the twins. We can only speculate. She may have made her way back around the bed,back to her side of the bed when she heard the killer in the twins room and this is where she was 'finished off'. The blood drips around the bed support the fact that somebody who was injured moved around it. If,as you say,the blood on the socks was indeed Junes,then that would support the theory that June was there at some stage,would it not? Rather than to speculate that the socks were 'planted'? I have also read previously that June's blood was found underneath Sheila's body,but do not know if that is indeed true. As far as I'm concerned,there is enough evidence for me to conclude that June DID indeed move around the bed and back again. As for the blood found in the area of the landing (in two different area's I believe),I have never seen any evidence as to whose blood it was or indeed if it was ever even tested.

What blood drips around the bed?  Supposedly they were next to the bed there no mention of a trail all the way around it. If it is true that both samples were taken by sheila's body then there is no record of a trail of drops around the bed only drops on the Nevill's side and then the blood near where her body was found.  If she walked around to Nevill's side and back while bleeding there should be blood across the foot of the bed since she had to walk that way twice.  There is no description let alone testing of any blood across the foot of the bed.  There is only the mention of 2 spots without saying where they were taken from so again I will ask for some solid proof both were both by her body and not anywhere else like the foot of the bed.

People do things for a reason. For her to walk to Nevill's side after both the killer and Nevill ran downstairs makes little sense except if she thought the phone was there which simply highlights the significance of Jeremy removing the bedroom phone, sticking it in the kitchen in place of a phone that worked perfectly, hiding it then lying about the whole things saying the bedroom phone replaced a broken kitchen phone and telling the secretary when she found the phone that it was just a spare though she knew better and recognized it as the kitchen phone he claimed was broken.

[scipio_usmc]

Rather post nothing than post and be wrong like scipio. The trouble with scenarios they are really no better than guesses and what are you going to do if your scenario is found to be wrong? Just because someone is reluctant to post any scenario to satisfy your own curiosity does not mean that they are in any way wrong or do not have thoughts of their own. What it does say is rather that those people will not be drawn into your silly game of scenarios which by their very character cannot be entirely true as they ultimately spring from the mind of the scenario maker, even if they "profess" to be guided by so called "fact" which of course they are not. For if they were then you would not get a variety of scenarios. Let it be understood Adam that just because some will not do as you want them to do it in no way means that they are any less intelligent of imaginative than you are.

You don't post nothing though.  You post ridiculous speculation to try to defend Jeremy that demonstrates you are little more than an apologist while most of the time you deny same and claim to be looking at things objectively.  Every single Jeremy supporter is making wild speculations about evidence being planted and people lying in order to support their preferred belief that Jeremy is innocent though you have nothing at all to disturb the evidence.

June surviving for an extra minute doesn't change that she was on the floor already by the time the killer returned from the kitchen.  That is if there is blood all the way around the bed which I still have not seen anyone demonstrate exactly where the 2 carpet samples came from.



WHat have you shown me to be wrong about that is significant? 

[guest2181]

June surviving for an extra minute doesn't change that she was on the floor already by the time the killer returned from the kitchen.  That is if there is blood all the way around the bed which I still have not seen anyone demonstrate exactly where the 2 carpet samples came from.

For what it's worth, the blood on the side of the bed where Sheila's body was located, is referenced in Mcdonnells letter.

I suspect that is the source of the information.

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