The main prosecution forensic case

[Caroline]

I don't have a problem with most people on here . We are all entitled to our own opinions and I don't think there is any need to get personal .

Neither do I (in the main) and I don't think there is a need to get personal either. However, I know I can be completely condescending and it's deliberate - I do it deliberately when I think someone is doing that to me. Would like to think I could rise above it but - it must be a flaw in my personality. I guess everyone has at least one!! 

[scipio_usmc]

I understand that the firearms expert could not tell if the bullets were fired through the silencer or not? Is that always the case, or can you tell in some instances but the marks on the bullets?

Some silencers are made of brushings which touch the bullets and depending on what the brushings are made of they can leave some kind of marks on the bullets that can potentially be seen depending upon the condition of the spent bullet.  A baffled silencer when properly operating results in the bullet not touching anything.  If the baffles are crooked or it is screwed into the gun improperly the bullets can hit the baffles on the way out thus damaging the baffle and bullet.  You might be able to tie the damage on the bullet to the baffle and will likewise see the damage to the baffle.   

A properly installed baffled silencer will leave no way to tell whether a silencer was used or not.  You have to look to other evidence like witnesses not hearing any shots or blood found on or in it etc.

[scipio_usmc]

I don't have a problem with most people on here . We are all entitled to our own opinions and I don't think there is any need to get personal .

If I had a personal problem with the people here I would not bother to post.  I don't take online debating personally.  My issue is with the claims people make and that is what I challenge including calling out bias when that is what I see. Debating the claims of people is why I am here that is what I like to do debate claims and evidence.

[lookout]

And saying that people are incapable.You're far too self-opinionated.

[Jan]

If I had a personal problem with the people here I would not bother to post.  I don't take online debating personally.  My issue is with the claims people make and that is what I challenge including calling out bias when that is what I see. Debating the claims of people is why I am here that is what I like to do debate claims and evidence.

a hint.

we would debate with you more if you were not so personal.

[Alias]

a hint.

we would debate with you more if you were not so personal.

Another hint, perhaps we would actually read your posts, Skippy, if you weren´t so personal and rude - I know I mostly don´t bother reading them.

[David1819]

Thank-you, Scipio I'd invested a lot of emotion into my belief that Jeremy was innocent -our upbringings and adoptions would have been the probable reason for it- and whilst I could forgive Sheila because she was ill, forgiving Jeremy would have come much harder. Not that it was my place to forgive. Detaching myself emotionally has helped me to clarify my thoughts.............................but I still think Sheila was badly let down :D

you where Adopted? So was I 

Jeremy don't deserve forgiveness if he done it. Killing kids for money?

[lookout]

This killing wasn't for money.

[Jane]

you where Adopted? So was I 

Jeremy don't deserve forgiveness if he done it. Killing kids for money?

It made it hard for me to look at objectively

 Killing children full stop. Doesn't bear thinking of, does it?

[David1819]

It made it hard for me to look at objectively

 Killing children full stop. Doesn't bear thinking of, does it?

how comes? Iv never considered it to play a role in my judgement if it does I am unaware of it.

 Killing children full stop. Doesn't bear thinking of, does it?

not really forgivable in my view

[Jane]

how comes? Iv never considered it to play a role in my judgement if it does I am unaware of it.

not really forgivable in my view

We all have different experiences. It would oversimplify it to just say the male experience is different from the female experience.

[scipio_usmc]

It made it hard for me to look at objectively

 Killing children full stop. Doesn't bear thinking of, does it?

Maybe I am a cold bastard but killing is killing.  I view all the victims equally and see the only relevance of some victims being kids pertaining to evidence of motive and ruling out any third party actions.

Killing the kids in bed rules out the idea of an intruder being caught and eliminating anyone who could be a witness.  It establishes the murders as an assassination.  Only Jeremy would profit from an assassination of the whole family including the kids.  This is the relevance I see to the fact some victims were children.

 

[Jane]

Maybe I am a cold bastard but killing is killing.  I view all the victims equally and see the only relevance of some victims being kids pertaining to evidence of motive and ruling out any third party actions.

Killing the kids in bed rules out the idea of an intruder being caught and eliminating anyone who could be a witness.  It establishes the murders as an assassination.  Only Jeremy would profit from an assassination of the whole family including the kids.  This is the relevance I see to the fact some victims were children.

 

I hear what you say and no one has the right to rob another of their life. However, I think that most women will react in the same way, ie, emotionally, over the death of a child. This rises exponentially with the death of two children together.

[David1819]

Killing the kids in bed rules out the idea of an intruder being caught and eliminating anyone who could be a witness.  It establishes the murders as an assassination.  Only Jeremy would profit from an assassination of the whole family including the kids.  This is the relevance I see to the fact some victims were children.

 

I've always assumed they where the first to go as they where asleep. Is this most probably the case do you think?

[Caroline]

This killing wasn't for money.

Well, not in the end! It was for nothing!!