submit questions for the Essex Police Challenge

[Bambergate]

Hi
I have done this in the past, and will again.
here is the link
http://www.essex.pcc.police.uk/2015/02/essex-police-challenge-comes-to-witham/
Nick Alston has stated he will not support a request for Essex Police to show that they have not framed JB.
All would take is the release of the original reports from the team surrounding the farm house.
I believe its a good idea to have a long documented history of giving Essex Police the opportunity to come clean.
As you all know I have been in contact with  officers who were inside the farmhouse and have been threatened by Essex Police for doing this.
This was done to try and keep what happened a secret,this is one of the most darkest acts in UK policeing.
Essex Police have Framed Jeremy Bamber.

[Patti]

Hi
I have done this in the past, and will again.
here is the link
http://www.essex.pcc.police.uk/2015/02/essex-police-challenge-comes-to-witham/
Nick Alston has stated he will not support a request for Essex Police to show that they have not framed JB.
All would take is the release of the original reports from the team surrounding the farm house.
I believe its a good idea to have a long documented history of giving Essex Police the opportunity to come clean.
As you all know I have been in contact with  officers who were inside the farmhouse and have been threatened by Essex Police for doing this.
This was done to try and keep what happened a secret,this is one of the most darkest acts in UK policeing.
Essex Police have Framed Jeremy Bamber.

Can I ask? In what way did EP threaten you?  I also made a submission; I believe Roch did as well.  I never got a reply. 

[Jan]

Hi Bambergate.

Are you saying we can all make a submission?

I would ask for the original file - plus the details of the 32 interviews with JM 

[lookout]

 And if I ask for the same,Jan,that'll be two of us.

I wrote last time and asked them what it was that changed their minds from a murder/suicide to murder.
Needless to say my request must have gone into the" out basket".

[lookout]

Bambergate,I thank you once again for the work that you've done including correspondence galore to the various people who were involved in the case. It WILL pay off in the end,trust me.

[Caroline]

Hi
I have done this in the past, and will again.
here is the link
http://www.essex.pcc.police.uk/2015/02/essex-police-challenge-comes-to-witham/
Nick Alston has stated he will not support a request for Essex Police to show that they have not framed JB.
All would take is the release of the original reports from the team surrounding the farm house.
I believe its a good idea to have a long documented history of giving Essex Police the opportunity to come clean.
As you all know I have been in contact with  officers who were inside the farmhouse and have been threatened by Essex Police for doing this.
This was done to try and keep what happened a secret,this is one of the most darkest acts in UK policeing.
Essex Police have Framed Jeremy Bamber.

What did they tell you?

[Adam]

And if I ask for the same,Jan,that'll be two of us.

I wrote last time and asked them what it was that changed their minds from a murder/suicide to murder.
Needless to say my request must have gone into the" out basket".

What changed their mind ?

Evidence.

[Jan]

What changed their mind ?

Evidence.

There were only two things - the silencer and JM.

[Adam]

There were only two things - the silencer and JM.

There is a mountain of forensic and circumstantial evidence.

[lookout]

There is a mountain of forensic and circumstantial evidence.

Where ??

[Alias]

"Mountain of circumstantial evidence" is a term used by prosecution when there is very little....
You have to make it look like something substantial somehow.

[lookout]

There is a mountain of forensic and circumstantial evidence.

There's positively a mountain of evidence to say he DIDN'T do it !!

[Jan]

There is a mountain of forensic and circumstantial evidence.

there is no forensic evidence that proves JB did it

I hope you never get convicted on circumstantial evidence. Mountain or molehill.

You have tried JB in your mind on his character (perceived by you ) which is also no basis to convict a man of 5 murders.

[susan]

Hello Adam please direct me to your thread showing all the forensic evidence I guess I missed it.  Thanks.

[scipio_usmc]

there is no forensic evidence that proves JB did it

I hope you never get convicted on circumstantial evidence. Mountain or molehill.

You have tried JB in your mind on his character (perceived by you ) which is also no basis to convict a man of 5 murders.

There is forensic evidence that proves Sheila didn't do it but rather there was someone else present who killed everyone.  Jeremy admitting he knew the family was in trouble.  He claimed he knew as a result of a call from Nevill blaming Sheila.  It is not credible that Nevill phoned to blame Sheila for a variety of reasons including the fact Sheila didn't do anything so why would he call and lie and claim she did?  Jeremy did a variety of things to frame Sheila including claiming she fired all weapons in the house- something he recanted later. He also staged bullets in the kitchen in support of a made up a bogus tale regarding leaving the gun out for Sheila to grab. 

The only one with a motive to kill everyone in the house including the twins was Jeremy.  He clearly knew about the murders and took efforts to frame his sister.  Julie said he admitted he was behind the killings- calling her before police even- and that he had been planning the murders for some time.

Saying there is no evidence is simply living in denial.  Living in denial doesn't make such evidence go away though.