Human blood in the silencer:

[scipio_usmc]

Not neccessarily. Often Schizophrenics who have urges to kill do plan their attacks - sometimes over years. Mostly, when Schizophrenics kill, they kill family members, they are their main targets.
There often is a method to the madness, a warped logic.

"Who is at risk?

When a person with schizophrenia becomes violent the victim is usually someone from their own family or someone else close to them such as a carer. Attacks against strangers are extremely rare. When the attacker is female they will almost invariably attack their own children."

http://www.livingwithschizophreniauk.org/advice-sheets/schizophrenia-and-dangerous-behaviour/

A planned attack would not enable Nevill to make a call for help and if he did call he would not be suggesting she was going crazy and running around with the gun.   His lawyers could have suggested in a planned attack she installed the moderator, went into the bedroom and tried to shoot them in their sleep but that Nevill escaped to the kitchen...  There still would be the problem of the killer wearing gloves and trying to explain what she did with gloves that no one found any and other detail issues but the claim that Nevill was able to make the call claiming she was going crazy ruins the ability to argue a planned attack. 

[scipio_usmc]

AT LAST!! An ally! 

Not a useful one since he is discussing worthless DNA tests done in 2000 and suggesting erroneously suggesting these worthless tests mean the blood found in the moderator is meaningless. 

[Adam]

The Forensic Science Service (FSS) could not establish if the DNA was blood based

http://www.forensic-science.co.uk/bamber5.html

Overall the silencer is not going to solve anything its very possible Jeremy could have committed the murders without it. Hence why he keeps wanting it tested.

The silencer does not seem to prove guilt or innocence. Thou in a legal sense a pillar of the prosecution case will have collapsed.

The silencer proved guilt at trial.

Experts saying it was Sheila's blood. Other experts saying Sheila could not shoot herself.

There was only one way to vote.

[Alias]

A planned attack would not enable Nevill to make a call for help and if he did call he would not be suggesting she was going crazy and running around with the gun.   His lawyers could have suggested in a planned attack she installed the moderator, went into the bedroom and tried to shoot them in their sleep but that Nevill escaped to the kitchen...  There still would be the problem of the killer wearing gloves and trying to explain what she did with gloves that no one found any and other detail issues but the claim that Nevill was able to make the call claiming she was going crazy ruins the ability to argue a planned attack.

That is not an absolute truth. The shootings could have commenced in a number of ways - we don´t know how. She might have been mulling over her next move, hesitating, then suddenly acting.

[Adam]

That is not an absolute truth. The shootings could have commenced in a number of ways - we don´t know how. She might have been mulling over her next move, hesitating, then suddenly acting.

'Crazy', 'planned', 'mulling'. I certainly won't be inviting any future daughters over for a free holiday.

[Alias]

'Crazy', 'planned', 'mulling'. I certainly won't be inviting any future daughters over for a free holiday.

Well, Sheila was troubled, everyone knew that.
The "free holiday" as you like calling it was nothing Sheila or the boys wanted. June more or less forced them to come. In fact all three of them were desperate not to go there, the boys were devastated when Colin left, they tried to talk him into staying the night. They clung to him like he had never experienced before, they cried inconsolably.
"Free holiday"?

[Adam]

Well, Sheila was troubled, everyone knew that.
The "free holiday" as you like calling it was nothing Sheila or the boys wanted. June more or less forced them to come. In fact all three of them were desperate not to go there, the boys were devastated when Colin left, they tried to talk him into staying the night. They clung to him like he had never experienced before, they cried inconsolably.
"Free holiday"?

Guess Neville and June should have just paid for Sheila, Nicholas and Daniel and Sheila's medical bills. Rather than also trying to see their daughter and grandchildren.

Neville and June not expecting to end up dead.

[scipio_usmc]

That is not an absolute truth. The shootings could have commenced in a number of ways - we don´t know how. She might have been mulling over her next move, hesitating, then suddenly acting.

Claiming she went and got the moderator out to kill them in their sleep then couldn't go through with the plan and instead went around acting crazy which enabled Nevill to go make a call and then she caught him and merely hung up the phone then took it off the hook and marched him upstairs to shoot him in the bedroom with June makes no sense at all.

Either she was crazy and grabbed a wepaon of opportunity or she carried out a planned attack you can't have it both ways.  Jeremy's claim he received a call that she grabbed the gun and was crazy along with his story of how he left the gun out painted his lawyers into a corner of what they could reasonably suggest occurred.

I realize Jeremy's supporters are so biased they will accept anything no matter how absurd in order to avoid facing his guilt but his lawyers had to argue before a jury and convince a jury.  The jury heard his own words about Nevill calling to say she grabbed the gun and had gone crazy and his own claims of the state he supposedly left the weapon in.  That created a conflict because he framed is as her going crazy and grabbing a weapon of opportunity but the prosecution's evidence related to the silencer being used meant that the best defense would have been to argue a planned killing but his own statements inhibited them from successfully making that argument.

 

[Jane]

Guess Neville and June should have just paid for Sheila, Nicholas and Daniel and Sheila's medical bills. Rather than also trying to see their daughter and grandchildren.

Neville and June not expecting to end up dead.

Ain't hindsight just THE most wonderful thing :D

[scipio_usmc]

Ain't hindsight just THE most wonderful thing :D

Since you understand what he wrote maybe you can translate.

[David1819]

Not a useful one since he is discussing worthless DNA tests done in 2000 and suggesting erroneously suggesting these worthless tests mean the blood found in the moderator is meaningless.

Not only does he accuse lawyers of being stupid and compare experts to Laurel and Hardy now he accuses the FSS (forensic science service) findings as worthless and meaningless.

This image is Scipio to a Tee

[Jane]

Not only does he accuse lawyers of being stupid and compare experts to Laurel and Hardy now he accuses the FSS (forensic science service) findings as worthless and meaningless.

This image is Scipio to a Tee

He must be related to the conscript who wrote to his mother, from the front, that he thought everything was going well, the only problem being that when they did drill HE was the only one in step.

[maggie]

If you read Boutflour's statement he found all three silencers and the scope neatly packed in the manufactures boxes and wrapped up in a bag.

It does not really add up in my view

Nor in my mind, David.

[Jane]

Since you understand what he wrote maybe you can translate.

Sarcasm and gobbledygook, Scipio, sarcasm and gobbledygook. Who knows the workings of his mind? If the Old Nan of the Mountains knows, he sure ain't telling :D

[scipio_usmc]

Not only does he accuse lawyers of being stupid and compare experts to Laurel and Hardy now he accuses the FSS (forensic science service) findings as worthless and meaningless.

This image is Scipio to a Tee

You continue to distort.

I said the DNA testing was worthless and FSS agrees with that.  You noted how FSS said they could not establish there was any blood in the moderator at the time the DNA tests were done hence could not establish any of the DNA was blood based.  Thus the DNA tests would not be able to prove anything and were worthless.

I also quoted form the COA about why they declared the DNA tests were worthless.

This completely and totally demolishes you nonsense claim about the evidence found in the moderator not being reliable.  The DNA tests failed to have an impact at all on such evidence.