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Offline Caroline

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Most people are unaware of such fine distinction and use the terms interchangeably- especially men but some women as well.  I never heard of such distinction before but I am a guy who doesn't wear women's clothing and has no interest in women's clothing so...

Perhaps there is no distinction in the US but there is in the UK.
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Perhaps there is no distinction in the US but there is in the UK.

I think it is the same in the US.

Ayway, whether those on the railing are leggings or tights isn´t the question. It is whether they are still wet, which I don´t buy into for reasons I wrote in an earlier post.

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I think it is the same in the US.

Ayway, whether those on the railing are leggings or tights isn´t the question. It is whether they are still wet, which I don´t buy into for reasons I wrote in an earlier post.

No witnesses spoke about them and the photo certainly doesn't demonstrate whether they are wet or not so it amounts to just wild speculation on his part.

If they were wet placing them on a wooden railing makes no sense so that is further reason to doubt it and to support your view that they were not a uniform color and this accounts for the variation. 

 
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If they were wet placing them on a wooden railing makes no sense
Why? If they were dry, why place them on the rail?

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Why? If they were dry, why place them on the rail?


Why not? It's as good a place as any. It isn't IMpossible that they were damp when placed there but we have NO idea when that was. What I refuse to accept is Sheila washing them between killings/after the killings but I WILL accept that she MAY have worn them with the dress she'd worn -the one AE retained- and rinsed them out when she took them off, which COULD mean that they'd been there ALL of the previous day and the night preceding.

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Sorry, don't understand why the tights are even being mentioned, you can't tell if they're wet or not. Something as small and lightweight as a pair of tights aren't going to hold that much water so as to be visible anyway. It's just a pair of tights hanging over a banister.
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Sorry, don't understand why the tights are even being mentioned, you can't tell if they're wet or not. Something as small and lightweight as a pair of tights aren't going to hold that much water so as to be visible anyway. It's just a pair of tights hanging over a banister.




Absolutely NOR do I!!!! However when Mike suggested that they were watermarked leggings I thought an explanation was in order, men not usually being as clued up about these things as are we.

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Absolutely NOR do I!!!! However when Mike suggested that they were watermarked leggings I thought an explanation was in order, men not usually being as clued up about these things as are we.

Watermarked??  ;D ;D ;D
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Why? If they were dry, why place them on the rail?

Water damages wooden railings and floors.

My wife hangs pants and some dresses or tops over our railing when she brings them upstairs so that they stay folded in half until they are put away.  I will put clothing there temporarily as well. Wet clothing is left in the laundry room, or hung outside not left dripping on our floors.
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Water damages wooden railings and floors.

My wife hangs pants and some dresses or tops over our railing when she brings them upstairs so that they stay folded in half until they are put away.  I will put clothing there temporarily as well. Wet clothing is left in the laundry room, or hung outside not left dripping on our floors.

I guess people do things differently now but I can see why people would hang things over the stair rail back then because if they had old heating systems, they would just hang stuff where they could and as heat rises, the banister is an idea place. The rails are painted and varnished, so that would protect the wood from moisture.
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I guess people do things differently now but I can see why people would hang things over the stair rail back then because if they had old heating systems, they would just hang stuff where they could and as heat rises, the banister is an idea place. The rails are painted and varnished, so that would protect the wood from moisture.

As long as the varnish is perfect water won't get at the wood but it can get under varnish if there are holes in the varnish plus a puddle of water on the floor can be slippery. Many people have hallway rugs and apart from not wanting to walk on a wet rug they tend to smell when wet.  Our dorm had a rug which got wet from ordinary water and it stunk for the rest of the year. Even after it dried the smell didn't go away.  A little damp is one thing but when wet enough to drip that is something else entirely.

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The morning of the murders was different to any other in the life of Sheila Caffell, because she had not killed anyone at all before then. So, after killing the other four, she washed herself down, and left her bloodstained panties to soak in a bucket of cold water downstairs in the corner of the kitchen. She must also have removed her blue leggings which had got blood upon them and washed them before taking them upstairs to hang over the bannister rail at the top of the stairs . It is very telling that it was as if she had been leaving markers in rooms where she had shot dead her parents, for example, heavily stained panties downstairs in the kitchen where Ralph died, and the wet / damp blue leggings hanging over the bannister outside the door to the main bedroom close to where the body of June Bamber was eventually photographed. Inside the bedroom at around 7.15am,  she left the rifle she had used leaning against the bedroom window which was immediately spotted by WPC Julia Jeapes. I think Sheila placed the rifle at the window as a signal to the police outside that the shootings inside had finished, and she was ready for them to enter the farmhouse downstairs. Whether or not she had planned to trick the police into thinking that they could now come into the house so that she could confront them, or not, we will never know, but by that stage she knew that police would be delayed entering the main kitchen because Ralph's body was sat on a chair directly behind the inner door, and because of this if police entered the farmhouse through the back farmhouse door they would only get access to a side of the farmhouse that did not allow them anywhere directly to her, since upstairs on that part of the farmhouse the only other means to get access to the other side of the farmhouse where the gun was resting against the bedroom window, was through a panel in the bathroom which she had locked using catches on the bathroom side of the panel. Having said all of this, Sheila knew that the only other way to get directly to her on that side of the farmhouse, was via the front door, but if police did that then they would have to come up the main stairs at the front of the premises. There is no proof at all that Sheila was wearing the light blue night dress that she ended up being photographed in after 10 am when PC Bird first started to take photographs of her dressed in it. I believe that after she shot and killed the other four victims, that she may well have performed ritualistic cleansing of her body, which may also have involved placing items of her own clothing at significant parts of the farmhouse as described. Any blood photographed upon the nightdress she is wearing by the time PC Bird photographs her, is evidence of her being shot by police after she had killed the others, and gone through the ritualistic performance, and marker placement at key areas around the killing sites...
« Last Edit: February 20, 2015, 04:36:AM by mike tesko »
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The morning of the murders was different to any other in the life of Sheila Caffell, because she had not killed anyone at all before then. So, after killing the other four, she washed herself down, and left her bloodstained panties to soak in a bucket of cold water downstairs in the corner of the kitchen. She must also have removed her blue leggings which had got blood upon them and washed them before taking them upstairs to hang over the bannister rail at the top of the stairs . It is very telling that it was as if she had been leaving markers in rooms where she had shot dead her parents, for example, heavily stained panties downstairs in the kitchen where Ralph died, and the wet / damp blue leggings hanging over the bannister outside the door to the main bedroom close to where the body of June Bamber was eventually photographed. Inside the bedroom at around 7.15am,  she left the rifle she had used leaning against the bedroom window which was immediately spotted by WPC Julia Jeapes. I think Sheila placed the rifle at the window as a signal to the police outside that the shootings inside had finished, and she was ready for them to enter the farmhouse downstairs. Whether or not she had planned to trick the police into thinking that they could now come into the house so that she could confront them, or not, we will never know, but by that stage she knew that police would be delayed entering the main kitchen because Ralph's body was sat on a chair directly behind the inner door, and because of this if police entered the farmhouse through the back farmhouse door they would only get access to a side of the farmhouse that did not allow them anywhere directly to her, since upstairs on that part of the farmhouse the only other means to get access to the other side of the farmhouse where the gun was resting against the bedroom window, was through a panel in the bathroom which she had locked using catches on the bathroom side of the panel. Having said all of this, Sheila knew that the only other way to get directly to her on that side of the farmhouse, was via the front door, but if police did that then they would have to come up the main stairs at the front of the premises. There is no proof at all that Sheila was wearing the light blue night dress that she ended up being photographed in after 10 am when PC Bird first started to take photographs of her dressed in it. I believe that after she shot and killed the other four victims, that she may well have performed ritualistic cleansing of her body, which may also have involved placing items of her own clothing at significant parts of the farmhouse as described. Any blood photographed upon the nightdress she is wearing by the time PC Bird photographs her, is evidence of her being shot by police after she had killed the others, and gone through the ritualistic performance, and marker placement at key areas around the killing sites...

If there were a way to objectively determine whether you actually believe this bunk (too bad polygraphs are worthless) I would start up a pool so people could bet on it.  I would give 10-1 odds against you actually believing what you are shoveling.   
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I am being deadly serious when I say that there is no evidence to confirm that Sheila was wearing the blue nightdress at the time each of the other four victims got shot. If you or anybody else can point me in the right direction that would be very much appreciated...
« Last Edit: February 20, 2015, 10:38:AM by mike tesko »
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I am being deadly serious when I say that there is no evidence to confirm that Sheila was wearing the blue nightdress at the time each of the other four victims got shot. If you or anybody else can point me in the right direction that would be very much appreciated...

Sheila engaged herself in acts of ritualistic cleansing after shooting the other victims.  She discarded the blue leggings and after washing them she hung them over the bannister railing at the top of the main stairs, as a marker. She removed her heavily bloodstained panties and put them in a plastic bucket of cold water, downstairs in the kitchen. She then washed herself and then readied herself for the finale by putting on a clean ight blue nightdress...
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« Last Edit: February 20, 2015, 12:40:PM by mike tesko »
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...