Photographic still image taken from crime scene video - The shocking truth...

[Jane]

No,but I drew my own conclusions knowing that June had the facial shot,so as long as I knew that,so far as I was concerned,it was June and not Sheila.
Besides anything else,the septum,nasal area was different as in an older person it appears more pinched.

Then how did you explain the neck wounds which June didn't have and I'd be really interested to know  which other features convince you that it was June, not Sheila.

[mike tesko]

Aww, Lookout. You do me a disservice. As far as I was concerned you were stating fact.................. but just out of interest, DO you believe that the pictures Mike posted, taken from a documentary, are of, still alive, June and Sheila, hauled from June's bedroom, to another room to be photographed and hauled, still living, BACK to June's bedroom, PRIOR to the police shooting them both dead and taking MORE pictures of them?

Stop twisting what I posted, I did not post the altered images, I posted the dark image (a), which only shows the face of one female, and I said I was not 100% sure if the female in the dark image (a) was Sheila, or June. I believe I said there was a 50 / 50 chance the female either one of them. You couldn"t see the face of the other female in the dark image (a) that I posred. Somebody else posted the altered image (a) which shows the two faces of two females. I believe that the second face in the altered image (a) to have been added to the original dark image, with a view to trying to create an illusion that the photographic image which was broadcast during the tv documentary, was authentic. Show me an exact duplicate copy of the dark image (a) that I posted up, only instaed of it showing only one female face in the same image (a), show me one with the faces of both females in the same dark image (a), so that I can make comparison with the altered image (a)...

Quote me correctly, if you want to challenge what I am saying...

[mike tesko]

I have never yet said that the body of Sheila was filmed in any other room at the scene, and I have never said that police must have shot them in a different room, and changed thier clothes, before carrying Sheila and June back into the parents bedroom - those are somebody else's ideas, which have been wrongly attributed to me...

[mike tesko]

The furniture argument introduced by another and others, does not exclude for the possibility that the still photographic image (a) was taken from crime scene footage taken in the main bedroom in question. The set of drawers could have been broyght from another room in the upstairs part of the farmhouse, and pushed up against the bedroom door to prevent anyone entering the bedroom via that doorway. It is possible, but I am not yet eau fait with the type of bedroom furniture in the childrens bedroom, which was located on the other side of the internal door cl8se to where Sheila's body eventually end up by 10 O'clock...

Perhaps someone might know what type of bedroom furniture was present in the so called childrens bedroom, and or Jerenys bedroom...

[Caroline]

I have never yet said that the body of Sheila was filmed in any other room at the scene, and I have never said that police must have shot them in a different room, and changed thier clothes, before carrying Sheila and June back into the parents bedroom - those are somebody else's ideas, which have been wrongly attributed to me...

It can't be the same room because the furniture is different.

[Jane]

Both of the females in the dark version of image (a) were not dead, so why would anyone want to play both being dead? The dark image (a) female in the foreground, is as I keep telling you, Sheila. The female in the foreground is not an actress, it is definitely Sheila without the shot under the chin, and blood running and leaking, and pouring out of the corners of her mouth, and across her neck...

The real issue, is who the other female in the back ground of the dark image (a)?

I think that female was June Bamber  - the producer has been very crafty by not showing the females face, which leaves everyone guessing or assuming that it has to be June Banner, because the only two females involved in the tragedy, were Sheila and June...

But, as I say, the producer pulled off a stunt involving a still image taken form the crime scene video, which only identifies Sheila, in the dark version of image (a), and part of the other female body in the back ground. What he later introduced into the footage of the documentary, was an altered (light) image which purports to identify the woman in the back ground of the dark version of image (a), but the light version of (a) is clearly a fake..,

The above is as close as I can get to quoting you, Mike. I disagree that EITHER female is June or Sheila. I think both women are actresses. I also believe that the idea that the police allowed, out of their possession, video footage, which IF they are guilty of what you suggest them to be, proves that guilt to the world and if this is so WHY is Jeremy still in  prison.

I have never yet said that the body of Sheila was filmed in any other room at the scene, and I have never said that police must have shot them in a different room, and changed thier clothes, before carrying Sheila and June back into the parents bedroom - those are somebody else's ideas, which have been wrongly attributed to me...

My take on this is that the furniture in the film is NOT the furniture in the Bambers' bedroom nor do I believe it to be the sort of furniture they'd have given house room to so naturally I wonder how these pictures came to be taken in a room other than where they were found.

[Jane]

The furniture argument introduced by another and others, does not exclude for the possibility that the still photographic image (a) was taken from crime scene footage taken in the main bedroom in question. The set of drawers could have been broyght from another room in the upstairs part of the farmhouse, and pushed up against the bedroom door to prevent anyone entering the bedroom via that doorway. It is possible, but I am not yet eau fait with the type of bedroom furniture in the childrens bedroom, which was located on the other side of the internal door cl8se to where Sheila's body eventually end up by 10 O'clock...

Perhaps someone might know what type of bedroom furniture was present in the so called childrens bedroom, and or Jerenys bedroom...

Why would anyone go to those lengths when they could have moved the furniture already IN the Bamber bedroom.

[mike tesko]

Other people are trying to attribute what they are thinking, as though I have said such things - but I can speak for myself thank you very much...

As far as I am concerned, the face of the female in the dark image (a) is either, Sheila, or June. Which ever it was, thàt female does not show any signs of having been fatally shot between the eyes, or fatally shot under the chin. Absence of such fatal injuries, contained in the film footage which has the correct format and quality of film taken back in 1985, indicates that either Sheila or June, were not dead at the time the original footage was taken...

[Jane]

Other people are trying to attrubute what they are thinking, as though I have said such things - but I can speak for myself thank you very much...

As far as I am concerned, the face of the female in the dark image (a) is either, Sheila, or June. Which ever it was, thàt female does not show any signs of havibg been fatally shot between the eyes, or fatally shot under the chin. Absence of such fatal injuries, contained in the film footage which has the correct format and quality of film taken back in 1985, indicates that either Sheila or June, were not dead at the time the original footage was taken...

Well Mike. we're both entitled to our own opinions. If yours is correct then I imagine from the moment it went to air Jeremy's present team will have known about it and will have acted on it as they deemed appropriate.

[mike tesko]

Why would anyone go to those lengths when they could have moved the furniture already IN the Bamber bedroom.

I am not yet sure, whether they did, or didn't, or which room it was done in, but there is only the face of one of the two females in the dark image (a), recorded in a format and quality far from use in 20011 / 2013, it was an image taken from footage taken in August 1985...

[mike tesko]

Why would anyone go to those lengths when they could have moved the furniture already IN the Bamber bedroom.

We don't know if it was the same room, whether they brought in different furniture through the adjoining door, or if they also moved furniture already in the room?  But what we do know, is that for some reason no photographs showing the bedroom furniture in the adjoining bedroom has been disclosed, so rather than jump to any conclusion why not wait to see what the true position was / is...

[mike tesko]

Show me the face of both females in the dark image (a), without the image being altered...

[Caroline]

I am not yet sure, whether they did, or didn't, or which room it was done in, but there is only the face of one of the two females in the dark image (a), recorded in a format and quality far from use in 20011 / 2013, it was an image taken from footage taken in August 1985...

Have you watched the CTSB video on Youtube? Slow the footage down by using pause/play - there is no break in the film, it's different lighting! Where would a TV production comp get hold of such footage?

[Caroline]

Show me the face of both females in the dark image (a), without the image being altered...

What do you mean 'altered' - it hasn't been altered.

[mike tesko]

What do you mean 'altered' - it hasn't been altered.

There has been two fundamental alterations between the dark image (a) I posted, and the light version of image (a) :-

(1) - the original dark version (a) was recorded in a different format with corresponding quality during the 1985 era, which shows only the face of one female, with no body, and a small part of what appears to be part of a second body...

(2) - the altered version of image (a) is lighter and shows the faces of two females in the same image...

What is required, is a dark version of the light image (a) which purports to show both faces of the two females, so that everyone can see two female faces in (1) the dark image (a), and (2) the light version of image (a). What we have got at the moment, is a dark version of image (a) which only shows the face of one of the females, and a light version of image (a) which shows the faces of two females...