Photographic still image taken from crime scene video - The shocking truth...

[Jane]

H, I get the point now, a sleeping beauty armed with a rifle...

From the props department.

[mike tesko]

From the props department.

Was that before,  or after the senior officers allowed a training exercise to be carried out using the bodies of victims as guinea pigs, and target practice?

[Jane]

Was that before,  or after the senior officers allowed a training exercise to be carried out uung the bodies f victims a guinea pigs, and target practice?

I really don't believe the film was authenticated by having a mock training exercise before takes Unless the script required the actresses to move, all that was required of them was to play at being dead.

[mike tesko]

I really don't believe the film was authenticated by having a mock training exercise before takes Unless the script required the actresses to move, all that was required of them was to play at being dead.

Both of the females in the dark version of image (a) were not dead, so why would anyone want to play both being dead? The dark image (a) female in the foreground, is as I keep telling you, Sheila. The female in the foreground is not an actress, it is definitely Sheila without the shot under the chin, and blood running and leaking, and pouring out of the corners of her mouth, and across her neck...

The real issue, is who the other female in the back ground of the dark image (a)?

I think that female was June Bamber  - the producer has been very crafty by not showing the females face, which leaves everyone guessing or assuming that it has to be June Banner, because the only two females involved in the tragedy, were Sheila and June...

But, as I say, the producer pulled off a stunt involving a still image taken form the crime scene video, which only identifies Sheila, in the dark version of image (a), and part of the other female body in the back ground. What he later introduced into the footage of the documentary, was an altered (light) image which purports to identify the woman in the back ground of the dark version of image (a), but the light version of (a) is clearly a fake..,

[Caroline]

Take it to a solicitor. I know what I saw and I know what the images are but if you're that confident - do something about it.

[Jane]

Both of the females inn the dark version of image (a) were not dead, so why would anyone want to play both being dead? The dark image (a) female in the foreground, is as I keep telling you, Sheila. The female in the foreground is not an actress, it is definitely Sheila without the shot under the chin, and blood running and leaking, and pouring out of the corners of her mouth, and across her neck...

The real issue, is who the other female in the back ground of the dark image (a)?

I think that female was June Banner  - the producer has been very crafty by not showing the females face, which leaves everyone guessing or assuming that it has to be June Banner, because the only two females involved in the tragedy, were Sheila and June...

But, as I say, the producer pulled off a stunt involving a still image taken form the crime scene video, which only identifies Sheila, in the dark version of image (a), and part of the other female body in the back ground. What he later introduced into the footage of the documentary, was an altered (light) image which purports to identify the woman in the back ground of the dark version of image (a), but the light version of (a) is clearly a fake..,

Actresses do whatever a script requires of them. The film went out as a representation of what occurred. At no point did they ask us to believe they were showing original footage of dead bodies. It wasn't a brilliant representation. They didn't even use the same furniture but unless every person watching KNEW what furniture was in the Bamber bedroom, it really didn't matter because it was only a mock up. You're very keen to insist that these actresses are June and Sheila but you haven't yet discussed HOW/WHY two living/semi dead women were dragged from the room where they were injured, photographed, dragged back to the room where they were injured and shot dead and photographed again.

You clearly believe that you're right so perhaps you should get legal advice. Talking to us about it isn't going to get anything done because there doesn't seem to be any support for what you're suggesting.

[mike tesko]

That is where you are wrong, there is considerable support for what I am saying...

[Caroline]

That is where you are wrong, there is considerable support for what I am saying...

Where?

[mike tesko]

First of all, let's get something clear, it was me who drew attention to the title of the TV documentary, 'Crimes that shook Britain', and it was me who brought everyone's attention to the dark image (a) broadcast as part of that documentary. In that image, you can only see the face of one of the females, the one in the foreground, the female who is Sheila. The image in question, shows Sheila not to be dead, albeit she does appear to be unconscious, but defo' not blood running from the corners of her mouth, no blood running from her nostril, no blood pooling in her left eye socket. No blood running diagonally across her neck. No bloodied fingermarks on her throat...

She wasn't dead, and they filmed her still alive...

After they shot her, they took pictures of her dead...

Sheila was the female downstairs in the kitchen, she was the female described as being a dead body, at 7.37am. She was the female described as one dead female at 7.38am. She was the suicide which Linda in the control room spoke to DS Davidson about at 7.45am. She was one of the two dead bodies to be mentioned to the police surgeon at 7.42am...

But...

She was not dead
She was not dead
She was not dead

[Jane]

First of all, let's get something clear, it was me who drew attention to the title of the TV documentary, 'Crimes that shook Britain', and it was me who brought everyone's attention to the dark image (a) broadcast as part of that documentary. In that image, you can only see the face of one of the females, the one in the foreground, the female who is Sheila. The image in question, shows Sheila not to be dead, albeit she does appear to be unconscious, but defo' not blood running from the corners of her mouth, no blood running from her nostril, no blood pooling in her left eye socket. No blood running diagonally across her neck. No bloodied fingermarks on her throat...

She wasn't dead, and they filmed her still alive...

After they shot her, they took pictures of her dead...

Sheila was the female downstairs in the kitchen, she was the female described as being a dead body, at 7.37am. She was the female described as one dead female at 7.38am. She was the suicide which Linda in the control room spike to DS Davidson about at 7.45am. She was one of the two dead bodies to be mentioned to the police surgeon at 7.42am...

But...

She was not dead
She was not dead
She was not dead

FINE. I find the whole idea so ludicrous that I can only believe you to be having a joke at our expense. But if it remains your opinion there's obviously no mileage in further discussing it here. Take it to a solicitor.

[Alias]

Mike, it doesn´t matter that people here don´t agree with you. We are just people on a closed forum - we can´t do much!
If you are so confident about your findings, you should do as Caroline says: present it to people who can actually do something with it.

[Caroline]

First of all, let's get something clear, it was me who drew attention to the title of the TV documentary, 'Crimes that shook Britain', and it was me who brought everyone's attention to the dark image (a) broadcast as part of that documentary. In that image, you can only see the face of one of the females, the one in the foreground, the female who is Sheila. The image in question, shows Sheila not to be dead, albeit she does appear to be unconscious, but defo' not blood running from the corners of her mouth, no blood running from her nostril, no blood pooling in her left eye socket. No blood running diagonally across her neck. No bloodied fingermarks on her throat...

She wasn't dead, and they filmed her still alive...

After they shot her, they took pictures of her dead...

Sheila was the female downstairs in the kitchen, she was the female described as being a dead body, at 7.37am. She was the female described as one dead female at 7.38am. She was the suicide which Linda in the control room spoke to DS Davidson about at 7.45am. She was one of the two dead bodies to be mentioned to the police surgeon at 7.42am...

But...

She was not dead
She was not dead
She was not dead

If you suggested Crimes that Shook Britain, you should know that the footage is not Sheila or June. Take the pictures to his solicitor or whoever you think might free Jeremy on the strength of it. I know I won't be surprised when nothing comes of it.

[marty]

Mike, I think you need a break from this for a while.

[Patti]

Mike, I think you need a break from this for a while.

Well said Marty you have a heart. 

[Jan]

Well said Marty you have a heart. 

yes I agree.

I think Mike you believe what you have been told by informants - which may or may not be true- but you are using a piece of film to make a point. But it just does not fit to the farmhouse at all.