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« Reply #435 on: March 10, 2015, 10:11:AM »
We'll see,eh.

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« Reply #436 on: March 10, 2015, 11:07:AM »
 Sheila once told BW that " all people are evil and should be killed ".Did BW ever repeat this when on television a couple of years ago ? No,I don't think she did ! I wonder why ?

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« Reply #437 on: March 15, 2015, 10:31:AM »
 I'd always been a bit sceptic about the way Sheila had died,in that she didn't bear any hallmarks of having been faced,or forced by a shooter. Painless and fearless.
However,having read a sad story about an acting couple,the husband having starred in " Downton ",his wife also had starring roles,but while his career flourished,she felt as though hers was waning and as a consequence went into a deep depression,finally ending her life last year. Witnesses who saw the tragic ending to the woman who threw herself onto an incoming train,said that the look on her face was one of serenity.

Serenity is what I would have described Sheila's sad body lying there,and at peace.

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« Reply #438 on: March 16, 2015, 12:39:PM »
Harry Roberts who was jailed for life in 1966 for shooting dead 3 unarmed police officers,has been released on licence and has been given a name change,as well as a state-funded bungalow.He's now aged 78.
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« Reply #439 on: March 16, 2015, 12:47:PM »
Harry Roberts who was jailed for life in 1966 for shooting dead 3 unarmed police officers,has been released on licence and has been given a name change,as well as a state-funded bungalow.He's now aged 78.




He was actually released last November after serving 48 years. The longest serving sentence in this country.

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« Reply #440 on: March 17, 2015, 06:32:PM »
The note in the Bible".Love one Another". Refers to acting in the best interest/s----------the children ? In Divorce/Separation.
I'm sure that if we'd seen the rest of that letter,we'd have been able to piece it together.

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« Reply #441 on: March 17, 2015, 06:36:PM »
The letter itself began with " A determination always to act in the best interest of others " ?

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« Reply #442 on: March 21, 2015, 12:26:PM »
 A young 17 year old who was dubbed a " high flier " for his age,had been arrested for drink-driving in 2012. It has since emerged that while in custody,police were mocking him because of his middle-class background. Bullying too was also noted.              Sound familiar ?

Well this young man later killed himself. The sergeant in question who dished out the insults had been moved from his post for " inappropriate behaviour ".
As usual,this incident had remained hidden from the inquest,but now THANKFULLY has been made public.

What is it with police and a lot of members of the public who see this " middle-class syndrome " as one in which to show their hostilities towards ??

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« Reply #443 on: March 21, 2015, 12:38:PM »
A young 17 year old who was dubbed a " high flier " for his age,had been arrested for drink-driving in 2012. It has since emerged that while in custody,police were mocking him because of his middle-class background. Bullying too was also noted.              Sound familiar ?

Well this young man later killed himself. The sergeant in question who dished out the insults had been moved from his post for " inappropriate behaviour ".
As usual,this incident had remained hidden from the inquest,but now THANKFULLY has been made public.

What is it with police and a lot of members of the public who see this " middle-class syndrome " as one in which to show their hostilities towards ??

His parents weren't aware he had been arrested until after his death either. Because he was over 16 the police didn't need to inform anyone he was in custody. So sad.
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« Reply #444 on: March 21, 2015, 08:59:PM »
The note in the Bible".Love one Another". Refers to acting in the best interest/s----------the children ? In Divorce/Separation.
I'm sure that if we'd seen the rest of that letter,we'd have been able to piece it together.
It was a reference to the Jim Jones cult,where over 900 people committed suicide in Guyana in 1978 after he brainwashed them. It's interesting that along with the message "love one another" Jones preached that families should be broken up as they got in the way of true worship. Coming only 7 years before the White House Farm murders it could well have been an influence on Sheila's thought processes and should have been hammered home by the Defence at trial.http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/sign-on-the-back-wall-reading-love-one-another-hangs-over-news-photo/2512939

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« Reply #445 on: March 21, 2015, 09:16:PM »
It was a reference to the Jim Jones cult,where over 900 people committed suicide in Guyana in 1978 after he brainwashed them. It's interesting that along with the message "love one another" Jones preached that families should be broken up as they got in the way of true worship. Coming only 7 years before the White House Farm murders it could well have been an influence on Sheila's thought processes and should have been hammered home by the Defence at trial.http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/sign-on-the-back-wall-reading-love-one-another-hangs-over-news-photo/2512939
You are right Steve, I remember the event well, hard to believe it was so long ago.  It was a massive coincidence if it had no connection with the murders, it's highly unlikely that we'll ever know the answer.

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« Reply #446 on: March 22, 2015, 09:13:AM »
It was a reference to the Jim Jones cult,where over 900 people committed suicide in Guyana in 1978 after he brainwashed them. It's interesting that along with the message "love one another" Jones preached that families should be broken up as they got in the way of true worship. Coming only 7 years before the White House Farm murders it could well have been an influence on Sheila's thought processes and should have been hammered home by the Defence at trial.http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/sign-on-the-back-wall-reading-love-one-another-hangs-over-news-photo/2512939






Good post,Steve. I would have said that Sheila HAD been brainwashed by her mother. Sheila's confusing thoughts that had been instilled into her from an early and impressionable age would have been jumbled in her mind between good and evil. What was good ? Was it a way of ridding everyone from evil,for in order to carry out killings,did you have to " make them good ?".
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« Reply #447 on: March 22, 2015, 02:30:PM »
A thought . We know that SC had said she feared that she was a danger to her sons when she was hospitalised. And I guess that was taken into account when it was "murder suicide"  But I wonder if even June and Neville were even aware of that let alone JB ? That may have been a private conversation , I bet Colin was not aware of It otherwise he would never have left the boys with her at all?

So why would JB think everyone would readily accept that she would have shot the twins ?

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« Reply #448 on: March 22, 2015, 02:38:PM »
 I often wondered myself why Colin left the boys with their mother,so as you say,he may not have been fully aware,or had even known just what Sheila possibly could have been capable of.

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« Reply #449 on: March 23, 2015, 05:50:PM »
My point was as well, if Jeremy was guilty , why did he think that everyone would accept that Shelia would ever have killed the twins?  It seems that perhaps the conversation about her being a threat to the boys may have been private between her and her doctor - it seems Colin was not aware of it - and perhaps even her mother and father? So why would he think in the big plan that everyone would not be suspicious right from the start?