Did Bamber steal June's bike ?

[Adam]

So lazy was Jeremy,that he couldn't have ever mustered up the energy to run up and down 3 flights of stairs at WHF,killing five people. It took him all his time to get his backside off the sofa to start work.
Most of the arguments between Jeremy and his parents were about his laziness.

He somehow summoned the energy. It's amazing what a million pounds (in today's money) can do.

[susan]

Mr Gee Hahaha I am sat here reading the forum and thinking what a silly discussion this has become

[Adam]

No Adam, it DOESN'T. Neither does the fact that Jeremy may have been the laziest man alive. However, perhaps you could provide us with the documentation which gives us the time and dates that Jeremy picked the bike up from the pub.

Julie never rode the bike. Bamber never picked it up from the pub
 
There was a massacre just after it arrived at his cottage.

[Mr. Gee]

He somehow summoned the energy. It's amazing what a million pounds (in today's money) can do.

I'm afraid that all you answers are getting a bit pathetic now Adam. Isn't it time for your bed time story and cocoa?

[Jane]

That relates to the bike.

Even Lookout says Bamber was the laziest man alive. But saving himself 5 minutes of driving and making his girlfriend cycle 3 miles when she goes home is too unrealistic. Anyway he still had to collect the bike from the pub.
 

Julie never rode the bike. Bamber never picked it up from the pub
 
There was a massacre just after it arrived at his cottage.

But Adam, as you can see, you said very clearly "making his girlfriend cycle 3 miles.................Anyway he still had to collect the bike from the pub" yet "Julie never rode the bike. Bamber never picked it up from the pub" So "Mr. I would never lie under oath", you can't have it both ways.

[Jan]

I think the summary is

Jeremy said he got it from his mother for Julie to use

Julie admitted in her statement that in the past she had said it might be useful .

There was NO forensic evidence to show he rode the bike in the dark across fields and paths

Because there were no witnesses to him leaving home , arriving at the farm , leaving the farm , arriving home , then the method of transport is nothing than an assumption of something that could fit the timings . Nothing more , nothing less.

[Mr. Gee]

I think the summary is

Jeremy said he got it from his mother for Julie to use

Julie admitted in her statement that in the past she had said it might be useful .

There was NO forensic evidence to show he rode the bike in the dark across fields and paths

Because there were no witnesses to him leaving home , arriving at the farm , leaving the farm , arriving home , then the method of transport is nothing than an assumption of something that could fit the timings . Nothing more , nothing less.

In other words only the pig ignorant still hold that he did use the bike that night.

[Steve_uk]

This is not strictly true. There was yellow sulphurous mud on the tyres,which locals will know comes from that area. I don't see a woman glorying in riding a bike through mud for any purpose,whilst a man might well for recreation or dare I say it other reasons.

[Jane]

This is not strictly true. There was yellow sulphurous mud on the tyres,which locals will know comes from that area. I don't see a woman glorying in riding a bike through mud for any purpose,whilst a man might well for recreation or dare I say it other reasons.

Steve, I believe that came from RWB. The police found nothing.

[Alias]

This is not strictly true. There was yellow sulphurous mud on the tyres,which locals will know comes from that area. I don't see a woman glorying in riding a bike through mud for any purpose,whilst a man might well for recreation or dare I say it other reasons.

I am afraid you underestimate women and have a wee bit too romantic an approach. Here we see women (and men) on bikes in all kinds of weather and terrains - all the time.

[Steve_uk]

Steve, I believe that came from RWB. The police found nothing.

I have a feeling it's mentioned in "Blood Relations" when the bike is noticed in Jeremy's back yard by Ann Eaton days after the massacre.

[Jane]

I have a feeling it's mentioned in "Blood Relations" when the bike is noticed in Jeremy's back yard by Ann Eaton days after the massacre.

Hmm, I think you're right.

[Adam]

This is not strictly true. There was yellow sulphurous mud on the tyres,which locals will know comes from that area. I don't see a woman glorying in riding a bike through mud for any purpose,whilst a man might well for recreation or dare I say it other reasons.

Anyone that has read up the case knows there was mud on the wheels. Only the 'pig ignorant' don't.

Do you believe Bamber stole the bike. Or he said 'pretty' please and 'thanks a lot mum' to June after she very kindly gave him a bike ?

Anyway, Bamber's reason for getting the bike (just before the massacre) is simply too weak. Hardcore supporters will fight tooth and nail to defend it. Just as they did with the kitchen window after I provided twelve sources ! 

Bamber was a very lazy and an unpleasant person. Even his supporters say this. But getting the bike so Julie could cycle three miles when going home. To save himself five minutes of driving, is simply ridiculous.

[Adam]

Hmm, I think you're right.

If you have read 'Blood Relations' how an earth could you have believed Bamber innocent ?

It is an unbiased book that just reports on the facts. But the mountain of incriminating evidence shows his guilt. As the five star reviews on Amazon say.

[Steve_uk]

If you have read 'Blood Relations' how an earth could you have believed Bamber innocent ?

It is an unbiased book that just reports on the facts. But the mountain of incriminating evidence shows his guilt. As the five star reviews on Amazon say.

I think the most the Defence can hope for now bar a miracle is for Jeremy's conviction to be quashed on some technicality,which I believe is the purpose of Mike's Eureka moment thread.