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Re: The conviction. What does not fit ?
« Reply #45 on: January 07, 2015, 10:08:PM »
I come across a post today where I called Lookout Ms Hawkeye hahahahahaha it was posted 18 moths ago  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D






Hahahahahahahahaha. Moths.

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Re: The conviction. What does not fit ?
« Reply #46 on: January 07, 2015, 10:30:PM »





Hahahahahahahahaha. Moths.

New that would make you laugh.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: The conviction. What does not fit ?
« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2015, 11:21:AM »
Back to the conviction.

If MOST believe that JM's statements,etc were right/correct,and don't believe she lied,how come that when she was convinced ( by Jeremy ) that a hitman was involved,why was Jeremy imprisoned ?
Was it that this part of the case wasn't believed ? If not,why should the rest of her statements be believed ?

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Re: The conviction. What does not fit ?
« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2015, 11:24:AM »
It needn't have been MM,but someone else.MM would have been the first name that came into JM's head. Why did it just stop at MM ?

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Re: The conviction. What does not fit ?
« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2015, 12:14:PM »
It needn't have been MM,but someone else.MM would have been the first name that came into JM's head. Why did it just stop at MM ?



Would it matter  -other than to the person it WASN'T- whether it was MM,BC or AD or the man in the moon. If Jeremy HAD  hired a hit man, it would still make him culpable.

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Re: The conviction. What does not fit ?
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2015, 12:25:PM »
 Reading about how bias even the" photographs" of the crime scene were. High resolution pics given to the prosecution--------------you've guessed it,low resolution bordering on poor,given to the defence,by CCRC.
How can this be justified ?

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Re: The conviction. What does not fit ?
« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2015, 01:03:PM »
Reading about how bias even the" photographs" of the crime scene were. High resolution pics given to the prosecution--------------you've guessed it,low resolution bordering on poor,given to the defence,by CCRC.
How can this be justified ?



I do find myself wondering if it REALLY matters to the Prosecution and Defence teams -other than in terms of point scoring- WHO wins. They'll probably all get together to hold a post mortem over supper or drinks later and move on to the next case. Bottom line is, it's the most convincing act which will convince the jury and in order to be that they have to do their homework. Some are better at it than others.

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Re: The conviction. What does not fit ?
« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2015, 01:41:PM »


Would it matter  -other than to the person it WASN'T- whether it was MM,BC or AD or the man in the moon. If Jeremy HAD  hired a hit man, it would still make him culpable.





Then why didn't the investigation go deep enough to find out ? It would have appeared that between the relatives and JM,life was made very easy for EP,with their unfounded allegations. 

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Re: The conviction. What does not fit ?
« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2015, 01:45:PM »




Then why didn't the investigation go deep enough to find out ? It would have appeared that between the relatives and JM,life was made very easy for EP,with their unfounded allegations.



lookout, one side is ALWAYS going to win and it's usually the side who have done their homework and given the best performance.

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Re: The conviction. What does not fit ?
« Reply #54 on: January 08, 2015, 01:51:PM »


lookout, one side is ALWAYS going to win and it's usually the side who have done their homework and given the best performance.




Performance is right,don't know about the homework though.

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Re: The conviction. What does not fit ?
« Reply #55 on: January 08, 2015, 05:18:PM »


Would it matter  -other than to the person it WASN'T- whether it was MM,BC or AD or the man in the moon. If Jeremy HAD  hired a hit man, it would still make him culpable.

Totally agree - and  I do wonder how watertight the alibi of MM was?

I could have understood the hit man scenario more - because then I could understand the ability to stand next to the police the next day - no need to clean a bike or get rid of clothing etc. etc.

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Re: The conviction. What does not fit ?
« Reply #56 on: January 08, 2015, 05:33:PM »
Totally agree - and  I do wonder how watertight the alibi of MM was?

I could have understood the hit man scenario more - because then I could understand the ability to stand next to the police the next day - no need to clean a bike or get rid of clothing etc. etc.

As I have said so many times, my belief is, that if a hitman was in the game, he would have been there with Jeremy when the murders were committed.
Would also better correspond with the "price" - 2000 pounds would not have been that much to kill five people including two little children.
Would a hitman know the layout of the farmhouse well enough, even though it had been drawn up by Jeremy (we have all seen his lousy ground plan drawing) - would he know where light scitches were? He couldn“t have done this in the dark. Neither could Jeremy.

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Re: The conviction. What does not fit ?
« Reply #57 on: January 08, 2015, 06:38:PM »
 There were one or two lights on Alias. The place wasn't exactly in darkness. This is how the" figure" was seen because of the artificial light behind it.

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Re: The conviction. What does not fit ?
« Reply #58 on: January 08, 2015, 06:59:PM »
There were one or two lights on Alias. The place wasn't exactly in darkness. This is how the" figure" was seen because of the artificial light behind it.

The killer had already been there at that time.

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Re: The conviction. What does not fit ?
« Reply #59 on: January 08, 2015, 07:41:PM »
The killer had already been there at that time.





Which was quoted as being " male ",but---------------if Sheila had just had a shower,which going by the sad pics of her,her hair had looked wet,thus her outline would have appeared as male because her hair would have been flattened after showering.