Does WHF31 confirm Bews' and Myall's version of what was seen with Jeremy?

[curiousessex]

Within 'CASE RELATED PHOTOGRAPHS' in the 'Archive and Library' section there is a photograph showing the front on WHF.

The particular photograph is 'WHF31'.

This photograph appears to be taken from the very same position Jeremy describes, in his own words and in detail ,where Bews, Myall and Jeremy were located on the morning of 7th August 1985. Jeremy details they saw a person looking out from the master bedroom which had curtains open and the light on. These details / Jeremy's exact words are included in Mike's thread 'Jeremy explains visit to farmhouse PC Myall and PS Bews..'

Bews and Myall maintain what they saw was a trick of the light.

Jeremy includes a hand written diagram within his letter to Mike. The diagram is referenced '1419586273915' and includes notes regarding the state of each room eg. lights on or off, windows open or closed, curtains open or shut.

The photograph 'WHF31' and Jeremy's diagram '1419586273915' appear to be exact in all aspects - For each room the state of the lights, windows and curtains all appear to be the same.

Even more there appears to be someone looking out from the master bedroom in the same position as is depicted in Jeremy's drawing. However if 'WHF31' is zoomed in there is in fact no one there......... a trick of the light.

In fact within 'CASE RELATED PHOTOGRAPHS' if many of the photographs of the front of WHF and from the perspective Jeremy describes in his letter and drawing are looked at closely many have apparent image reflections appearing over the windows.

Maybe at Jeremy's trial the Jury were correct in believing the PC Myall and PS Bews description of what was seen on the morning of 7th August 1985?

[lookout]

And maybe not,curiousessex.

I refer to the actual sighting which,within minutes,the firearms team were contacted,with yet another backup team after the first team had arrived. All for a " trick of the light ?".I think not,do you ?

[Alias]

Here they are for comparison.







http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6280.msg277931.html#msg277931

My personal opinion of this is that if Jeremy really believed he had seen someone in that window, he would have been screaming and kicking about it all through his trial - and to this day.
Sorry to say, I think he is clinging at straws here, so I tend to agree with you, curiousessex

[lookout]

Why waste resources such as the firearms teams who are only called out as a very last resort when they know for sure that they're up against a siege where firearms are involved ?

[Jane]

Why waste resources such as the firearms teams who are only called out as a very last resort when they know for sure that they're up against a siege where firearms are involved ?

In fairness, Lookout, they can only go on what information they are given and that information may be incorrect. I feel certain that in the immediacy of a situation, resources didn't enter the equation.

[Mr. Gee]

Within 'CASE RELATED PHOTOGRAPHS' in the 'Archive and Library' section there is a photograph showing the front on WHF.

The particular photograph is 'WHF31'.

This photograph appears to be taken from the very same position Jeremy describes, in his own words and in detail ,where Bews, Myall and Jeremy were located on the morning of 7th August 1985. Jeremy details they saw a person looking out from the master bedroom which had curtains open and the light on. These details / Jeremy's exact words are included in Mike's thread 'Jeremy explains visit to farmhouse PC Myall and PS Bews..'

Bews and Myall maintain what they saw was a trick of the light.

Jeremy includes a hand written diagram within his letter to Mike. The diagram is referenced '1419586273915' and includes notes regarding the state of each room eg. lights on or off, windows open or closed, curtains open or shut.

The photograph 'WHF31' and Jeremy's diagram '1419586273915' appear to be exact in all aspects - For each room the state of the lights, windows and curtains all appear to be the same.

Even more there appears to be someone looking out from the master bedroom in the same position as is depicted in Jeremy's drawing. However if 'WHF31' is zoomed in there is in fact no one there......... a trick of the light.

In fact within 'CASE RELATED PHOTOGRAPHS' if many of the photographs of the front of WHF and from the perspective Jeremy describes in his letter and drawing are looked at closely many have apparent image reflections appearing over the windows.

Maybe at Jeremy's trial the Jury were correct in believing the PC Myall and PS Bews description of what was seen on the morning of 7th August 1985?

Hi curious, I hope you are well? Yes I can see what you mean and yes at that time in the morning it could actually be mistaken for a trick of the light. And I can also see your point about the jury being convinced that Bewes and Myall explanation being the right one if they were shown the drawing and the photo. The only problem being is that this photo was taken during the day and the image that Jeremy, Myall and Bewes saw was of the room with the light on thus creating a backlight to whatever was seen that night?

[lookout]

In fairness, Lookout, they can only go on what information they are given and that information may be incorrect. I feel certain that in the immediacy of a situation, resources didn't enter the equation.

Bad communication then ?

[lookout]

 Not just one team of firearms experts-----------------but a backup as well ??

[Mr. Gee]

Here they are for comparison.







http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6280.msg277931.html#msg277931

My personal opinion of this is that if Jeremy really believed he had seen someone in that window, he would have been screaming and kicking about it all through his trial - and to this day.
Sorry to say, I think he is clinging at straws here, so I tend to agree with you, curiousessex

I wonder when that picture was taken? Also when the picture was taken there actually was someone looking out of the window at the time?

[Jane]

I wonder when that picture was taken? Also when the picture was taken there actually was someone looking out of the window at the time?

It could, of course, be no more than illusion, but it looks to me as if someone wearing a short sleeved tee shirt is peering from the window, face close to the glass, supporting themselves by holding onto the window ledge.

[lookout]

It could, of course, be no more than illusion, but it looks to me as if someone wearing a short sleeved tee shirt is peering from the window, face close to the glass, supporting themselves by holding onto the window ledge.

Nah,it's a trick of the light.

[susan]

Hi lookout you sure are sharp today Keep it up

[lookout]

 Oh I will,Susan. .
Just reading the local rag, I didn't know that Charles Bronson was in Full Sutton.

[susan]

Lookout gosh neither did I.  Is he a film actor?

[lookout]

Afraid not. He's a very much feared criminal who probably took his name from the actor.