Why was " Taff " Jones so adamant of Jeremys' innocence ?

[Adam]

Jones would not know. Neither he nor anyone else would have been allowed to know this, as it would have put the jurors into a compromising position.
Rather it came from Jones' prejudicial mind and may I dare to say from Adam's as well, as he appears to agree with Jones on this? I hope not, as this would point to his attitude towards women in general?

Well two women jurors cried when the verdict was being read out.

It is amazing that two jurors found him not guilty, or were undecided. No one disputed the silencer evidence at trial. Both the defence and prosecution agreeing it was on the rifle. In other words it was impossible for it to be Sheila.

The silencer evidence was brought up years later by Jeremy when he had no where else to go.

[Adam]

The police got a lot of stick. And that was after the conviction !

Who was leading the investigation for the first month ? Taff.

[Mr. Gee]

Well two women jurors cried when the verdict was being read out.

It is amazing that two jurors found him not guilty, or were undecided. No one disputed the silencer evidence at trial. Both the defence and prosecution agreeing it was on the rifle. In other words it was impossible for it to be Sheila.

The silencer evidence was brought up years later by Jeremy when he had no where else to go.

So you agree with me that Jones was prejudicial in his remark to you? And do you agree with him that he wasn't surprised that it was two women who found him not guilty do you?

[Mr. Gee]

The police got a lot of stick. And that was after the conviction !

Who was leading the investigation for the first month ? Taff.

As far as I am aware the only people giving the police "stick" were the relatives?

[Alias]

Well two women jurors cried when the verdict was being read out.

It is amazing that two jurors found him not guilty, or were undecided. No one disputed the silencer evidence at trial. Both the defence and prosecution agreeing it was on the rifle. In other words it was impossible for it to be Sheila.

The silencer evidence was brought up years later by Jeremy when he had no where else to go.

Could as well have been they had a hard time convicting. You are assuming.

[Adam]

Could as well have been they had a hard time convicting. You are assuming.

Why do you think two jurors voted 'not guilty' ?

My 'the trial, a brutal highlighting of guilt ? ' highlights how  the trial savagely highlighted his guilt. The defence claimed the judges summing up was unfair and Bamber was unconvincing when testifying, saying damaging things. Thread on page 1.

Experts and witnesses said Sheila was a loving mother and attached to her father. Several people testified how Bamber hated his family,  which coincided with the fact he was about to inherit a huge amount of money.

No one disputed it was Sheila's blood on the silencer, meaning she must have been shot by someone else. Other forensic evidence showed it was not Sheila. Just as important was the circumstantial evidence.

RB expected a verdict in minutes. It was not that quick, but was still reached quickly for such a long trial. Quite why the verdict was not 12-0 I will never know.

[lookout]

So what if Sheilas' blood was found on the silencer.What if it had been Jeremys' ? Would he still have got the blame ?

[Mr. Gee]

Why do you think two jurors voted 'not guilty' ?

My 'the trial, a brutal highlighting of guilt ? ' highlights how  the trial savagely highlighted his guilt. The defence claimed the judges summing up was unfair and Bamber was unconvincing when testifying, saying damaging things. Thread on page 1.

Experts and witnesses said Sheila was a loving mother and attached to her father. Several people testified how Bamber hated his family,  which coincided with the fact he was about to inherit a huge amount of money.

No one disputed it was Sheila's blood on the silencer, meaning she must have been shot by someone else. Other forensic evidence showed it was not Sheila. Just as important was the circumstantial evidence.

RB expected a verdict in minutes. It was not that quick, but was still reached quickly for such a long trial. Quite why the verdict was not 12-0 I will never know.

Erm...now let me think.....it is a very difficult question to answer of course....could it be because....erm...they thought he was innocent?

[susan]

Hello Mr. Gee that is what I call logic   Does Adam do logic I ask myself

[Mr. Gee]

Hello Mr. Gee that is what I call logic   Does Adam do logic I ask myself

Hello Susan. I hope you are well? Have you ant snow where you are?

[susan]

Hello Mr Gee we only have snow on the surrounding mountains my house overlooks Ben Wyvis and it is pure white looks magnificent Hope you are well

[Adam]

Erm...now let me think.....it is a very difficult question to answer of course....could it be because....erm...they thought he was innocent?

Well the defence did not dispute the blood silencer evidence.

But if it was impossible for Sheila to shoot herself with the silencer on, how can Bamber not be guilty ?

[Mr. Gee]

Well the defence did not dispute the blood silencer evidence.

But if it was impossible for Sheila to shoot herself with the silencer on, how can Bamber not be guilty ?

I' afraid you will have to ask that one instead of presuming that they found him innocent just because they were women and had a crush on him.

[Adam]

I' afraid you will have to ask that one instead of presuming that they found him innocent just because they were women and had a crush on him.

Well that is what Stan Jones said.

The court, defence, prosecution and judge said the blood inside the silencer was specific to Sheila. Everyone agreed it was on the rifle during the massacre.

The rifle with the silencer on was too long for Sheila to shoot herself. There were only two suspects.

So it was impossible to vote 'not guilty' as it was impossible for Sheila to shoot herself. There was also a mountain of other forensic and circumstantial evidence. Several motives, an opportunity and no alibi.

Everyone voted 'guilty' quickly. Except two women. Perhaps Stan Jones was right.

[Neil]

I' afraid you will have to ask that one instead of presuming that they found him innocent just because they were women and had a crush on him.

Perhaps they thought he was guilty, just not beyond all reasonable doubt.