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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #90 on: January 02, 2015, 02:51:PM »
Ralph Neville was staying in a campervan on the farm at the time of the murders. Apparently he came away from South Africa on account of the violence there. This guy also had a companion ?

It was Fraser-Bell who was staying at WHF,until he had some trouble with a woman,it seems,then toddled off to the caravan site. RWB snr was a tutor at the agri college where FB attended.

We'll get there in the end. ;D ;D Just separating the wheat from the chaff first.

If you can find me an 'official' document (not forum hearsay) to back-up this claim I will eat my hat!!  ;D ;D ;D. Don't you think if there was someone living in a camper van at WHF, they would have been interviewed? I think there's quite a lot of 'chaff' still left!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #91 on: January 02, 2015, 02:59:PM »
Ralph Neville was staying in a campervan on the farm at the time of the murders. Apparently he came away from South Africa on account of the violence there. This guy also had a companion ?

It was Fraser-Bell who was staying at WHF,until he had some trouble with a woman,it seems,then toddled off to the caravan site. RWB snr was a tutor at the agri college where FB attended.

We'll get there in the end. ;D ;D Just separating the wheat from the chaff first.


Somewhere on the forum the is the scurrilous suggestion that a casual farm worker attempted to have sexual relations with Sheila in the days prior to her death. These "tit bits" seem to grow out of nowhere, don't they? To my knowledge, NO ONE questioned has admitted to it and there is nothing recorded about Sheila mentioning it to anyone, so HOW do we know it happened.

 It seems there is now a contingent of Fraser Bell, Jimmy Bell, Ralph Neville ET AL that have been thrown into the mix. Easy enough, perhaps, to get the Bells confused although they were WIDELY separated by age, lifestyle and position , but Ralph Neville, Neville Bamber's relative and NAMESAKE!!! Does it not seem odd that a relative bearing his father's name would be SO little known to Jeremy that he's never mentioned his presence? Does it not seem equally odd that, as a namesake relative, all the way from South Africa, he didn't share any meals with the Bambers and neither June nor Neville thought to mention him to Jeremy?

I believe RWB snr to have been Dean of Cirencester and author of a probably little read book on farming. As his son, RWB jnr was Neville Bamber's senior by some years and Neville was over 60, I suspect it highly unlikely that RWB snr was still at Cirencester at the time FB was a student.................although I grant, it's very difficult to shift some of these old boys when they're in  situ.

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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #92 on: January 02, 2015, 03:16:PM »

Somewhere on the forum the is the scurrilous suggestion that a casual farm worker attempted to have sexual relations with Sheila in the days prior to her death. These "tit bits" seem to grow out of nowhere, don't they? To my knowledge, NO ONE questioned has admitted to it and there is nothing recorded about Sheila mentioning it to anyone, so HOW do we know it happened.

 It seems there is now a contingent of Fraser Bell, Jimmy Bell, Ralph Neville ET AL that have been thrown into the mix. Easy enough, perhaps, to get the Bells confused although they were WIDELY separated by age, lifestyle and position , but Ralph Neville, Neville Bamber's relative and NAMESAKE!!! Does it not seem odd that a relative bearing his father's name would be SO little known to Jeremy that he's never mentioned his presence? Does it not seem equally odd that, as a namesake relative, all the way from South Africa, he didn't share any meals with the Bambers and neither June nor Neville thought to mention him to Jeremy?

I believe RWB snr to have been Dean of Cirencester and author of a probably little read book on farming. As his son, RWB jnr was Neville Bamber's senior by some years and Neville was over 60, I suspect it highly unlikely that RWB snr was still at Cirencester at the time FB was a student.................although I grant, it's very difficult to shift some of these old boys when they're in  situ.

Don't you think it's also odd that the story of RN matches exactly with the statement of FB?  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #93 on: January 02, 2015, 03:22:PM »
Don't you think it's also odd that the story of RN matches exactly with the statement of FB?  ;D ;D ;D




Sounds to me as if someone got confused before we did ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #94 on: January 02, 2015, 04:11:PM »
\when you read the hitch hikers account it does not say he even worked at WHF . He must have been pretty close to bump into the reporter on his way though.

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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #95 on: January 02, 2015, 04:16:PM »
Ralph Neville was staying in a campervan on the farm at the time of the murders. Apparently he came away from South Africa on account of the violence there. This guy also had a companion ?

It was Fraser-Bell who was staying at WHF,until he had some trouble with a woman,it seems,then toddled off to the caravan site. RWB snr was a tutor at the agri college where FB attended.

We'll get there in the end. ;D ;D Just separating the wheat from the chaff first.

OK, the mysterious 'Ralf Nevill' has been unmasked by HG on the red forum. His name is Christopher Neville, not Ralf and the only time he stayed in a camper van was 'after' the murders on 10th August with Peter Eaton to make sure no one broke into the empty farmhouse. He didn't drive a tractor on the night of the murders, nor did he leave his car at WHF - that was Fraser Bell, who left work at 8pm, drove the tractor home leaving his car at WHF.

So the question still remains - who brought the last trailer back to the farm late on the night of the murders?

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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #96 on: January 02, 2015, 04:18:PM »
\when you read the hitch hikers account it does not say he even worked at WHF . He must have been pretty close to bump into the reporter on his way though.

Where is the Hitchhiker's account?
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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #97 on: January 02, 2015, 04:27:PM »
Where is the Hitchhiker's account?
sorry the account from the hitchhiker by the man who gave him the lift - on this thread - gosh must not muddle my sources  ;D

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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #98 on: January 02, 2015, 04:28:PM »
this might help
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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #99 on: January 02, 2015, 04:49:PM »
this might help

Sorry Jan, I'm confused now  ;D. That was Fraser Bell's statement which I posted a link to yesterday. He was the farm hand who left his car at WHF and drove the tractor home. I wanted to know if there is any official documents in respect to the hitchhiker?
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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #100 on: January 02, 2015, 05:07:PM »
post 73 - from the guy who picked him up.

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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #101 on: January 02, 2015, 05:08:PM »
EP were apparently trying to link Ralph/Christophers' statement to the hitchhiker. ( see how quick EP are ? ) punch first,ask later ? Lokk where being over-zealous got them. ::)

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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #102 on: January 02, 2015, 05:50:PM »
OK, the mysterious 'Ralf Nevill' has been unmasked by HG on the red forum. His name is Christopher Neville, not Ralf and the only time he stayed in a camper van was 'after' the murders on 10th August with Peter Eaton to make sure no one broke into the empty farmhouse. He didn't drive a tractor on the night of the murders, nor did he leave his car at WHF - that was Fraser Bell, who left work at 8pm, drove the tractor home leaving his car at WHF.

So the question still remains - who brought the last trailer back to the farm late on the night of the murders?


Apparently a post from Tyler says this

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It is stated in the Dickenson Report that Nevill collected the last trailer of rape at 10.30pm,so for him to state that,somebody must have witnessed it?


Also it was said in another post that NB was working late in the fields.




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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #103 on: January 02, 2015, 06:10:PM »
 I wonder if anyone was watching him and followed him inside the farmhouse ?

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Re: Neville & Jeremy. The last blazing row ?
« Reply #104 on: January 02, 2015, 06:15:PM »
I wonder if anyone was watching him and followed him inside the farmhouse ?



Who would slaughter an entire family, make it look as if one of them had committed suicide and walk away empty handed? Also it fails to explain Neville's alleged call to Jeremy.