Amsterdam, a porsche & St Tropez. The future ?

[Adam]

He showed a great interest in the caravan site and he couldn't have sold it off because he wouldn't have owned it - others had shares in it too!

I did not know that. He had a small stake in it so that is surprising.

I have only read that he refused the suggestion that Sheila should have a greater share. Ann Eaton said Jeremy and Neville had a blazing row regarding the caravan site just before the massacre.

Then of course there was his way of showing how poor the security was 

[Alias]

I did not know that. He had a small stake in it so that is surprising.

I have only read that he refused the suggestion that Sheila should have a greater share. Ann Eaton said Jeremy and Neville had a blazing row regarding the caravan site just before the massacre.

Nevill had no part in the caravan site, June did.

[Caroline]

I did not know that. He had a small stake in it so that is surprising.

I have only read that he refused the suggestion that Sheila should have a greater share. Ann Eaton said Jeremy and Neville had a blazing row regarding the caravan site just before the massacre.

Read AE's statements. She didn't seem to like the fact that he had such an interest, in fact so much so that she had to redecorate her bathroom .

[Adam]

Read AE's statements. She didn't seem to like the fact that he had such an interest, in fact so much so that she had to redecorate her bathroom .

Will do.

[Steve_uk]

After a champagne funeral it was time for a lavish meal. Jeremy & Brett getting merry and chatting to other eaters.

The following day it was time for a jolly up with friends to Eastbourne. Brett was now using Neville's Citroen, while Mary Mugford had been offered June's car. Everyone piled in with Brett and headed for the deluxe hotel.

There was hardly time to catch breath after Eastbourne. A trip to Amsterdam had been booked. However this wasn't just to chill, it was part business & a lot of cannabis was smuggled back.

After some trips to London, meetings with lawyers, Sotherby's & time at the Notting Hill Carnival, another holiday was needed. This time to playboy mansion St Tropez. This time it was without Julie, who had had enough after hearing Jeremy ask another girl out.

Do people believe a free Jeremy would have continued visiting Amsterdam, London & St Tropez on a regular basis ?  Amsterdam to build up a mini or large drug business, London for the night life and St Tropez for the playboy life style.

It also seems he wanted to buy a porsche, telling the police on the massacre night and having no interest in Neville & June's cars. He has since claimed he was referring to a kit car. Which still costs a few bob.

Somehow I can't really see Jeremy cruising around a small Essex village in a Porsche. London seems more likely. Perhaps while in Sheila's flat.

You know I can't get out of my mind the Jubilee photo,where Jeremy seems to know his place in the hierarchy of the family next to June,not standing with Nevill,whom he could never hope to emulate,and at this stage in his life seems a little unsteady to be sure,but certainly not beyond redemption as he looks towards the future. In Roger Wilkes' book we get the admission that things started to go wrong after he was eighteen years old,and of course June was hospitalized shortly after. To my mind it was the sheer weight of expectation on this young man's shoulders which made him look for an exit of sorts,and try as he undoubtedly did at Little Chef and Sloppy Joe's,jobs which he could leave behind at the end of the day and not have to worry about figures or external influences,his efforts were deemed to be not good enough.

I think Jeremy would have tired of the playboy lifestyle sooner than many people think,he longed for the simple domesticity which Suzette gave him,and had he been found innocent he may well have gone for a time to India to dabble in Buddhism as he suggested to Julie he might. The hints he dropped those six weeks between the murders and his questioning by Police,such as he was the only person who knew what happened that night might well have grown to the extent that more people than Julie would come to have known the dreadful truth,though of course no double jeopardy in those days. I firmly believe the truth will still emerge one day,because Jeremy was derailed through the powerful media influences of the day and deep down there is something there in that photograph and others of Jeremy as a child,which says to me that he was not all bad.

[Jane]

You know I can't get out of my mind the Jubilee photo,where Jeremy seems to know his place in the hierarchy of the family next to June,not standing with Nevill,whom he could never hope to emulate,and at this stage in his life seems a little unsteady to be sure,but certainly not beyond redemption as he looks towards the future. In Roger Wilkes' book we get the admission that things started to go wrong after he was eighteen years old,and of course June was hospitalized shortly after. To my mind it was the sheer weight of expectation on this young man's shoulders which made him look for an exit of sorts,and try as he undoubtedly did at Little Chef and Sloppy Joe's,jobs which he could leave behind at the end of the day and not have to worry about figures or external influences,his efforts were deemed to be not good enough.

I think Jeremy would have tired of the playboy lifestyle sooner than many people think,he longed for the simple domesticity which Suzette gave him,and had he been found innocent he may well have gone for a time to India to dabble in Buddhism as he suggested to Julie he might. The hints he dropped those six weeks between the murders and his questioning by Police,such as he was the only person who knew what happened that night might well have grown to the extent that more people than Julie would come to have known the dreadful truth,though of course no double jeopardy in those days. I firmly believe the truth will still emerge one day,because Jeremy was derailed through the powerful media influences of the day and deep down there is something there in that photograph and others of Jeremy as a child,which says to me that he was not all bad.

Steve, that was very insightful and incredibly moving. There was indeed a weight of responsibility on Jeremy's shoulders. He was heir to a family business that he may have had no natural inclination for. His life had been mapped out for him without his permission being sought whilst his peer group had the freedom to find their own way AND make their own mistakes. Of COURSE we know that isn't the whole story but it may be close to the story Jeremy FELT it was.

[lookout]

Jeremy was reported to have been seen as a " mummys' boy" in a few of the papers. Though I don't like that turn of phrase myself as it shouts " criminal ". I'm not sure,but I think Jeremy himself gave himself that expression.

[Alias]

If you look at photos of Jeremy´s biological family, you see a bunch of fun loving, humorous people who don´t seem to take themselves too seriously. Probably Jeremy has that in his genes, but that wouldn´t have fit too well with down to earth, hard working, religious country folk.
We know he was a prankster, and that it didn´t always sit well with the family. He would have had to suppress some things that came naturally to him. Same with Sheila probably, but perhaps some other qualities, like being more openly affectionate for one.

[Adam]

You know I can't get out of my mind the Jubilee photo,where Jeremy seems to know his place in the hierarchy of the family next to June,not standing with Nevill,whom he could never hope to emulate,and at this stage in his life seems a little unsteady to be sure,but certainly not beyond redemption as he looks towards the future. In Roger Wilkes' book we get the admission that things started to go wrong after he was eighteen years old,and of course June was hospitalized shortly after. To my mind it was the sheer weight of expectation on this young man's shoulders which made him look for an exit of sorts,and try as he undoubtedly did at Little Chef and Sloppy Joe's,jobs which he could leave behind at the end of the day and not have to worry about figures or external influences,his efforts were deemed to be not good enough.

I think Jeremy would have tired of the playboy lifestyle sooner than many people think,he longed for the simple domesticity which Suzette gave him,and had he been found innocent he may well have gone for a time to India to dabble in Buddhism as he suggested to Julie he might. The hints he dropped those six weeks between the murders and his questioning by Police,such as he was the only person who knew what happened that night might well have grown to the extent that more people than Julie would come to have known the dreadful truth,though of course no double jeopardy in those days. I firmly believe the truth will still emerge one day,because Jeremy was derailed through the powerful media influences of the day and deep down there is something there in that photograph and others of Jeremy as a child,which says to me that he was not all bad.

Dabble in buddhism ? Do they have cannabis in India to ?

Well Mary Mugford said he never forgave June for sending him to boarding school. So the hatred may have set in from the age of 6. However actually exchanging words with each other stopped around 6 years before the massacre. Unless Jeremy needed money. 

He would have certainly hinted to trusted friends of his involvement if he had remained free. He told Julie straight away, lived it up with jolly up buddies in full public view & hinted to Liz Rimmington that he was hiding something. The temptation to boast about fooling everyone would have been too great.

[Jan]

You know I can't get out of my mind the Jubilee photo,where Jeremy seems to know his place in the hierarchy of the family next to June,not standing with Nevill,whom he could never hope to emulate,and at this stage in his life seems a little unsteady to be sure,but certainly not beyond redemption as he looks towards the future. In Roger Wilkes' book we get the admission that things started to go wrong after he was eighteen years old,and of course June was hospitalized shortly after. To my mind it was the sheer weight of expectation on this young man's shoulders which made him look for an exit of sorts,and try as he undoubtedly did at Little Chef and Sloppy Joe's,jobs which he could leave behind at the end of the day and not have to worry about figures or external influences,his efforts were deemed to be not good enough.

I think Jeremy would have tired of the playboy lifestyle sooner than many people think,he longed for the simple domesticity which Suzette gave him,and had he been found innocent he may well have gone for a time to India to dabble in Buddhism as he suggested to Julie he might. The hints he dropped those six weeks between the murders and his questioning by Police,such as he was the only person who knew what happened that night might well have grown to the extent that more people than Julie would come to have known the dreadful truth,though of course no double jeopardy in those days. I firmly believe the truth will still emerge one day,because Jeremy was derailed through the powerful media influences of the day and deep down there is something there in that photograph and others of Jeremy as a child,which says to me that he was not all bad.

A very good post Steve - and I hope you are right about the truth coming out one way or the other .

[Adam]

A very good post Steve - and I hope you are right about the truth coming out one way or the other .

The truth is out.

It's just that Jeremy keeps going on about it and has managed to get a handful of followers along.

Why does he protest his innocence ?

[Mr. Gee]

The truth is out.

It's just that Jeremy keeps going on about it and has managed to get a handful of followers along.

Why does he protest his innocence ?

Why are you so bothered if the supporters are so few?

[Adam]

Sorry my last post should have ended 'thread already created'.

[Alias]

Sorry my last post should have ended 'thread already created'.

Goading. Are you asking for a new leave?

[Jan]

Its a pity I can see the posts in quotes -I was feeling so much more relaxed :D