Sheila's medical condition = A brutal multiple murderer ?

[Jan]

I thought it was worth reposting the full statement from FE

[Jan]

the rest

[lookout]

There was never any mention of Colin helping out moneywise,in supporting the boys. Child maintenance ? For when Sheila had the boys ?
The poor girl,in her state of health,had to go looking for work ? Something was wrong somewhere. It was alright for Colin saying he was worried about her not being able to pay the rent,etc,on Maida Vale,but were there any contributions coming forthwith from him ? Probably relying on the fact that her parents would help out.

BTW,Jan,thanks for putting that up. These statements act as refreshers because of there being so much " needlessly " involved.

[Jan]

There was never any mention of Colin helping out moneywise,in supporting the boys. Child maintenance ? For when Sheila had the boys ?
The poor girl,in her state of health,had to go looking for work ? Something was wrong somewhere. It was alright for Colin saying he was worried about her not being able to pay the rent,etc,on Maida Vale,but were there any contributions coming forthwith from him ? Probably relying on the fact that her parents would help out.

BTW,Jan,thanks for putting that up. These statements act as refreshers because of there being so much " needlessly " involved.

Who was the friend Tara - I don't think I have seen evidence from her anywhere?

[lookout]

Who was the friend Tara - I don't think I have seen evidence from her anywhere?

Tara was a close friend of Sheilas' who she met while modelling. They lived close by each other in London. Tara's mentioned in Claire Powells' book.
 I'll root out something about her. I do know that Tara had remarked on " seeing a vast change in Sheila " after her hospitalization.

Why did June leave some religious material with Tara.? Did she think that she too was a " fallen woman "in need of redeeming ?".

[lookout]

" Tara had sensed problems with Sheila because of the " claustrophobic " attention she lavished on the twins. They were gorgeous little boys,but very thin,very frail-looking with little arms and legs like matchsticks." Tara goes on to say that Sheila had a funny attitude with the boys,saying they were wimps and cowards because they'd been frightened by another child,wishing that they were tougher. ( poor little mites )

One part of the book expressed Sheilas' bitterness towards both her parents. This was after her last visit in hospital in 1985 when Sheila recuperated at WHF,and Sheila was forever openly criticising her mother of losing her soul and neglecting her religion. Even when Sheila eventually returned home to Maida Vale,she still hung on to the bitterness that she felt towards her parents.Sonja,another friend had remarked on it being difficult to cope with the change in Sheila,and had said that there was " something strange about her ". Sheila had told Sonja that she was angry at her parents attitude towards her.

Getting away from the book,the author paints such a bleak picture of Sheila,that you do assume that it was Sheila who carried out those terrible murders. Everything adds up and points towards her.

[Mr. Gee]

What I and I suspect anyone else couldn't help but notice was just house violent Sheila became. So much so that no one was able to restrain her.
Now I don't know about anyone else here, but I for one could not say that Sheila was "better" by the night of the murders as some have suggested? This event here indicates very strongly that Sheila was in fact unstable and in fact was so the night of the murders? I don't go along with all this balony that her illness was controlled. Actually I suggest that you won't find any psychiatrist to say such a thing about a patient? They are usually very suppressed when speaking about their patients. That is why psychiatric patients are reviewed at regular intervals.

[Jan]

Colin said the emergency doctor and ferguson seemed to disagree with what she was capable of.And one thing he was very sure of was that the "family" i.e Anne , Robert and david etc knew VERY little about sheilas illness. He was surprised that they had been kept in the dark about nearly all of it.
 

[lookout]

 The top and bottom of it all was that not even Sheilas' doctors,psychiatrists,health workers.carers,call them all what you like,hadn't a clue how her illness would manifest itself. In fact I'd go as far as to say,the knew very little about the illness overall or how to treat it. Even the medication wasn't as controlled as it should have been and certainly no information as regards follow-ups for checking bloods,etc which is needed when taking anti-psychotic drugs.

I just picture Sheila as having been desperately sick to the point of absolute despair. I'm sure certain elements of her condition will show themselves in future reports/info which Jeremys' next submission will mainly contain,thus giving us all the answers. I hope so anyway.

[lookout]

 I wouldn't mind but Jeremy didn't even know that half the land he would have been left,was actually farmed by PE .That would NOT have gone down well. Did the jury know about that little gem ? I bet they didn't. Oh,if only the jury had been told about everything. We wouldn't be on this forum now.

[Jan]

I wouldn't mind but Jeremy didn't even know that half the land he would have been left,was actually farmed by PE .That would NOT have gone down well. Did the jury know about that little gem ? I bet they didn't. Oh,if only the jury had been told about everything. We wouldn't be on this forum now.

He knew something about the land that Neville had bought before the trial though - but not the full complications . He told Colin that the family had already started fencing some of it off . Also Colin said contrary to what others have posted Jeremy was very down and depressed at times because of the way the family were acting. It was actually Colin who offered to support him and reminded him of the good times he had had with his father. They were both understandably very up and down in the weeks after the murders.

[lookout]

He knew something about the land that Neville had bought before the trial though - but not the full complications . He told Colin that the family had already started fencing some of it off . Also Colin said contrary to what others have posted Jeremy was very down and depressed at times because of the way the family were acting. It was actually Colin who offered to support him and reminded him of the good times he had had with his father. They were both understandably very up and down in the weeks after the murders.

I'd also read about how the whole affair had affected Jeremy,as it would if you were a normal human being. I was rather surprised at Colin turning tail,although the " poison dwarf " had been to see him a few times,so she'll have made sure that she'd used her fluence on Colin to implicate Jeremy,as when someone is as low in spirits as he must have been,they become very impressionable.
Jeremy couldn't have twigged-on that things were happening behind his back.Only those who are paranoid with a pricking conscience can pick up on things like that because of their guilt. Unlike Jeremy.

[lookout]

I wonder why Freddie wasn't called to give evidence ? If anyone knew Sheila other than her parents,it was him.

[Jan]

I wonder why Freddie wasn't called to give evidence ? If anyone knew Sheila other than her parents,it was him.

his statement was read out in court. but as he was known to the police I don't think he was a suitable witness

[lookout]

his statement was read out in court. but as he was known to the police I don't think he was a suitable witness

So therefore,his statement would have meant sod all too.