The lockable from outside window. A time for closure ?

[Alias]

lets break this down

Barlow says 22nd August - that is before Anne says on her meticulous notes that she "discovered " the window could be shut from the outside - and are both these dates not before Julie was interviewed?


In 13th August 86 when the police went back to check - was the Howie a friend of the family? Perhaps yeldham was the photographer?

Were the photos ever shown of the window locking itself?

What kind of catch did that window have?

[Adam]

What kind of catch did that window have?

It is in the video I just mentioned. £9.99p from WHsmith's.

[Alias]

It is in the video I just mentioned. £9.99p from WHsmith's.

Not going to pay for that little information!

[Jan]

The latch one posted on the thread earlier . I think


Adam -  Why did the police say they checked the window on 22/8 before Anne eaton even discovered this unusual window.

Why did barlow inspect the bathroom window on that date and not mention the scratch caused by the hacksaw?

[Alias]

The latch one posted on the thread earlier . I think


Adam -  Why did the police say they checked the window on 22/8 before Anne eaton even discovered this unusual window.

Why did barlow inspect the bathroom window on that date and not mention the scratch caused by the hacksaw?

Telling.
And then the whole charade about the robin. Bet that never happened, but was something they made up to dupe Colin, to get him over to their side against Jeremy. They must have known about Colin´s fluffy mindset with a predilection for the supernatural. Cakes and buttering him up pretending they believed in supernatural events.
They must have been laughing at him, seriously. I think it is so nasty, he had just lost his sons! Can´t see this family ever considering anything supernatural!!

[Jan]

Telling.
And then the whole charade about the robin. Bet that never happened, but was something they made up to dupe Colin, to get him over to their side against Jeremy. They must have known about Colin´s fluffy mindset with a predilection for the supernatural. Cakes and buttering him up pretending they believed in supernatural events.
They must have been laughing at him, seriously. I think it is so nasty, he had just lost his sons! Can´t see this family ever considering anything supernatural!!

I agree - AE with her methodical logic and note taking does not appear to be the sort of person who would rely on a Robin to prove JB had secured the house from the outside.

[Adam]

Telling.
And then the whole charade about the robin. Bet that never happened, but was something they made up to dupe Colin, to get him over to their side against Jeremy. They must have known about Colin´s fluffy mindset with a predilection for the supernatural. Cakes and buttering him up pretending they believed in supernatural events.
They must have been laughing at him, seriously. I think it is so nasty, he had just lost his sons! Can´t see this family ever considering anything supernatural!!

Well Miss Undecided, there are sources that say the relatives knew about the window from years ago.

Wilkes's book said AE & RB drove to WHF just to try an experiment on the kitchen window. Rather than just seeing a Robin and by luck noticing the window.

[Mr. Gee]

Well Miss Undecided, there are sources that say the relatives knew about the window from years ago.

Wilkes's book said AE & RB drove to WHF just to try an experiment on the kitchen window. Rather than just seeing a Robin and by luck noticing the window.

So you don't believe Colin then?

[Jan]

Well Miss Undecided, there are sources that say the relatives knew about the window from years ago.

Wilkes's book said AE & RB drove to WHF just to try an experiment on the kitchen window. Rather than just seeing a Robin and by luck noticing the window.

How do you explain the difference in the dates Adam ?

Do you think Julie could have told Anne about the window before she was interviewed ?

[Alias]

Well Miss Undecided, there are sources that say the relatives knew about the window from years ago.

Wilkes's book said AE & RB drove to WHF just to try an experiment on the kitchen window. Rather than just seeing a Robin and by luck noticing the window.

So they did make up the story about the Robin - that was actually what I said. - Or don´t you believe Colin?

And Adam, stop talking down to me, you have no reason to!

[Adam]

How do you explain the difference in the dates Adam ?

Do you think Julie could have told Anne about the window before she was interviewed ?

Dates this, dates that. I have given you twelve sources. They can't all be wrong.

The prosecutions opening speech was that Bamber excited the kitchen window and locked it from outside. They either lied or made one big mistake.

[Mr. Gee]

Dates this, dates that. I have given you twelve sources. They can't all be wrong.

The prosecutions opening speech was that Bamber excited the kitchen window and locked it from outside. They either lied or made one big mistake.

They can and I suggest that they are wrong.

[lookout]

There's no " c " in exited--exit. Like, there's no f in cod .

[Jan]

Dates this, dates that. I have given you twelve sources. They can't all be wrong.

The prosecutions opening speech was that Bamber excited the kitchen window and locked it from outside. They either lied or made one big mistake.

or perhaps they are ? If it was such an open and shut case??? excuse the pun - why were the police back on the 13th august 1986 to check the window of exit? Why did jones say he had never seen evidence that the window could be locked from the outside and why did the appeal say it was irrelevant and they did not have to prove it happened on the night just because of what Jeremy said in his statements?

You don't have to keep on about your sources ( which keep increasing by the way    you believe Anne and Robert  that is the basis of your closure - personally IMO I don't think that Jeremy would be exiting on the night and banging the window time and time again to make sure it was secure from the inside. And I would have like to have seen a clear statement from Barlow - rather than his evidence in court . So in my mind this is not "closed"

BTW - dates in evidence are EXTREMELY important.

[Jane]

There's no " c " in exited--exit. Like, there's no f in cod .

And he has the temerity to ASK which mistakes he ignores!!! Duhhhhhh!!!!!