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Offline Adam

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The lockable from outside window. A time for closure ?
« on: December 03, 2014, 09:51:AM »
Jeremy's supporters often argue the kitchen window could not be locked from outside. But if this was the case, how could there  be an arrest ? It was impossible for Jeremy to have committed the murders.

There are lots of sources which show that the window could be locked from outside. Which have been posted on this board several times. Even this week I found two new sources in Wilkes's book. Surely people like Julie and Ann Eaton would not make claims the police could easily check.

The defence at trial never disputed the lockable from outside window. Jeremy has never brought it up since conviction and it is not mentioned on his OS.

People are entitled to still believe Jeremy is innocent. But is it time for closure on the lockable from outside window debate ? 
« Last Edit: December 03, 2014, 10:03:AM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: The lockable from outside window. A time for closure ?
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2014, 10:56:AM »
Seeing is believing. If the jury had be taken to the farm and it was demonstrated that the window actually locked when it was banged from the outside then, I would have believed it.

The thing I don't get is that he is supposed to get in through the bathroom window and left via the kitchen window.  There is not one piece of forensic evidence to back this scenario up that was produced at trial.

OK, the family and Barlow said after the window was banged it closed....Seeing as Barlow was a close friend of the family I would have thought the defense would have wanted a demonstration.

Even if it was determined that the window did lock this is only demonstrates that it could be done it does not mean that it was done on the night in question although it could have been possible.

There was no witnesses nor forensics to prove that Jeremy did this on the 7th.

Welcome back by the way....

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Re: The lockable from outside window. A time for closure ?
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2014, 12:48:PM »
Adam if you show me evidence

1) the police said the window locked from the outside ( not just shut)
2) Show me evidence they said it LOCKED from the outside in court
3) Show me that the window in question was one big enough for Jermy to get out of


Then it will be closed .

The family evidence is not enough because it would have taken two minutes to prove it to the police and fro them to record that.

I await the documents

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Re: The lockable from outside window. A time for closure ?
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2014, 12:50:PM »
Jeremy's supporters often argue the kitchen window could not be locked from outside. But if this was the case, how could there  be an arrest ? It was impossible for Jeremy to have committed the murders.

There are lots of sources which show that the window could be locked from outside. Which have been posted on this board several times. Even this week I found two new sources in Wilkes's book. Surely people like Julie and Ann Eaton would not make claims the police could easily check.

The defence at trial never disputed the lockable from outside window. Jeremy has never brought it up since conviction and it is not mentioned on his OS.

People are entitled to still believe Jeremy is innocent. But is it time for closure on the lockable from outside window debate ?
Time for closure? That means you won't be posting anymore? ;D

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Re: The lockable from outside window. A time for closure ?
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2014, 01:15:PM »
Barlow said 'If the window was banged from outside it closed'.

That is another source. That could now be double figures.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: The lockable from outside window. A time for closure ?
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2014, 02:07:PM »
 Right,get your researching done,Adam.

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Re: The lockable from outside window. A time for closure ?
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2014, 02:13:PM »
Barlow said 'If the window was banged from outside it closed'.

That is another source. That could now be double figures.
Was the window offered as evidence so that the jury could test it for themselves, or was it just the word of one man?

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Re: The lockable from outside window. A time for closure ?
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2014, 02:34:PM »
Was the window offered as evidence so that the jury could test it for themselves, or was it just the word of one man?

Well it was the prosecution stance at trial from day one.

If it was not the case, Jeremy would have told his defence team months before trial.Who would then dispute it pre or during the trial.
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Re: The lockable from outside window. A time for closure ?
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2014, 02:47:PM »
I think the title of this thread is a poay on words by6 Adam. Window? Time for closure? ;D

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Re: The lockable from outside window. A time for closure ?
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2014, 02:57:PM »
I think the title of this thread is a poay on words by6 Adam. Window? Time for closure? ;D





It's draughty anyway. ;D ;D

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Re: The lockable from outside window. A time for closure ?
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2014, 03:13:PM »




It's draughty anyway. ;D ;D



It's a PAIN  >:( ;)

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Re: The lockable from outside window. A time for closure ?
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Re: The lockable from outside window. A time for closure ?
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2014, 04:15:PM »




Or a PANE,even. ;D ;D ;D



That, too, Lookout ;D ;D ;D

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Re: The lockable from outside window. A time for closure ?
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2014, 06:08:PM »
Barlow said 'If the window was banged from outside it closed'.

That is another source. That could now be double figures.

Oh Adam - closed is not the same as locked as you well know.

The police went in , they said all windows LOCKED from the inside , not CLOSED


in court he said there was nothing unusual about the window. Now trust me if a window can lock itself from the outside it is unusual.


Try again

And remember a book is not a source.

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Re: The lockable from outside window. A time for closure ?
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2014, 06:16:PM »
Oh Adam - closed is not the same as locked as you well know.

The police went in , they said all windows LOCKED from the inside , not CLOSED


in court he said there was nothing unusual about the window. Now trust me if a window can lock itself from the outside it is unusual.


Try again

And remember a book is not a source.
This one is  ;D