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« Reply #45 on: December 05, 2014, 02:28:AM »
Closure time on this question. How did Jeremy dispose of the clothes he used in the murders?
Answer: He didn't and there is absolutely no evidence at all of any type of clothes to dispose of. It is way past time that this kind of manufactured suggestion was put to rest, because anything that anyone can suggest must remain just that, a suggestion and only a suggestion. Furthermore common sense must dictate that there were no murder clothes to dispose of. Why? Because there is no evidence of anything at all, whether it be the foolish suggestion that Jeremy wore a wetsuit, or anytyhing else to commit murder most foul that ghastly night. So time to lay this thread to rest. We must only be guided by facts alone. Produce proof of murder clothes or finish any further kind of idle chatter.

Common sense dictates that he disposed of clothing which he wore in the murders since they would have been covered in blood spatter.  Not rocket science!

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« Reply #46 on: December 05, 2014, 09:11:AM »
 Where,and how did that occur without causing attention ? Smoke through burning/dustbins that will have been searched at his home.?
ALL eyes were on the guy from day one,so how was it possible with the snooping relatives to let anything go unnoticed ? They would have created a statement on the disposal of a full set of clothes ? Yet not to my knowledge have they brought that into the equation. ?
There had been no news ANYWHERE of bloodied clothes having been found.
The dog couldn't have been much good at the time either,as it didn't show any interest in Jeremy when he was in the front courtyard of WHF with EP. It wasn't attracted to any part of him,not even his hands where there was every chance of gsr being down his fingernails.

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Re: Jeremy disposing his massacre clothes: A time for closure ?
« Reply #47 on: December 05, 2014, 09:18:AM »
 John,were you not also aware that dogs can smell fear too ?

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Re: Jeremy disposing his massacre clothes: A time for closure ?
« Reply #48 on: December 05, 2014, 10:12:AM »
Common sense dictates that he disposed of clothing which he wore in the murders since they would have been covered in blood spatter.  Not rocket science!


The argument is that if he was the murderer he would have got rid of everything on the night so that must be included in any "timing " logistic" arguments.

Adam is saying he had all month to do it.

The answer is that is a smokescreen because he had no way of knowing he would not be a suspect from day one. So really the same answer from what ever side of the fence you sit on.

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Re: Jeremy disposing his massacre clothes: A time for closure ?
« Reply #49 on: December 05, 2014, 10:58:AM »
John,were you not also aware that dogs can smell fear too ?
There's no evidence that Zeus was asked to sniff Jeremy.

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Re: Jeremy disposing his massacre clothes: A time for closure ?
« Reply #50 on: December 05, 2014, 11:57:AM »
There's no evidence that Zeus was asked to sniff Jeremy.





It could possibly have been " done " surreptitiously while Jeremy was there,as the police by their very nature,and the nature of the job of course,are suspicious characters. So when the dog was there,it made no attempt that it was aware of Jeremy,therefore evidence couldn't have been gathered that the dog was " over-excited ".If you get my meaning.

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Re: Jeremy disposing his massacre clothes: A time for closure ?
« Reply #51 on: December 05, 2014, 12:00:PM »
Even a whiff of a recently smoked" reefer" would have created arousal I'm sure.

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« Reply #52 on: December 05, 2014, 02:06:PM »
Common sense dictates that he disposed of clothing which he wore in the murders since they would have been covered in blood spatter.  Not rocket science!
Not for a prejudiced idiot of course not. Except of course there is absolutely no evidence that any clothes that were used for the murders or were subsequently destroyed.
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Re: Jeremy disposing his massacre clothes: A time for closure ?
« Reply #53 on: December 05, 2014, 03:59:PM »
Where,and how did that occur without causing attention ? Smoke through burning/dustbins that will have been searched at his home.?
ALL eyes were on the guy from day one,so how was it possible with the snooping relatives to let anything go unnoticed ? They would have created a statement on the disposal of a full set of clothes ? Yet not to my knowledge have they brought that into the equation. ?
There had been no news ANYWHERE of bloodied clothes having been found.
The dog couldn't have been much good at the time either,as it didn't show any interest in Jeremy when he was in the front courtyard of WHF with EP. It wasn't attracted to any part of him,not even his hands where there was every chance of gsr being down his fingernails.

Can't prove it but probably took a change of clothing with him which he changed out of before leaving the farm.  The contaminated items were then hidden, probably buried in a previously prepared location well out of sight or even weighted down and sunk in the reservoir.

He had to get rid of the clothing immediately he left the farm, he could not take the chance of them being discovered.

Remember the blood found under the seat in the car, was it related to the blood spattered clothing?
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Re: Jeremy disposing his massacre clothes: A time for closure ?
« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2014, 04:12:PM »
Can't prove it but probably took a change of clothing with him which he changed out of before leaving the farm.  The contaminated items were then hidden, probably buried in a previously prepared location well out of sight or even weighted down and sunk in the reservoir.

He had to get rid of the clothing immediately he left the farm, he could not take the chance of them being discovered.

Remember the blood found under the seat in the car, was it related to the blood spattered clothing?



 If he went to all that trouble to dispose of incriminating evidence WHY, oh why, didn't he include the silencer instead of putting it somewhere where, at SOME point, it would be found? I don't object to him being guilty but I find it offensive when, after all this time, no one can categorically say how he did it without resorting to make believe.

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Re: Jeremy disposing his massacre clothes: A time for closure ?
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 If he went to all that trouble to dispose of incriminating evidence WHY, oh why, didn't he include the silencer instead of putting it somewhere where, at SOME point, it would be found? I don't object to him being guilty but I find it offensive when, after all this time, no one can categorically say how he did it without resorting to make believe.

Only Bamber and possibly one other know the mechanics of what he did with the clothing.  Whatever he did with them they were well hidden.

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Re: Jeremy disposing his massacre clothes: A time for closure ?
« Reply #56 on: December 05, 2014, 04:34:PM »
Only Bamber and possibly one other know the mechanics of what he did with the clothing.  Whatever he did with them they were well hidden.



So, he went to the trouble of hiding the clothes but omitted to go to the same lengths with the HIGHLY incriminating silencer when at the VERY least, he had a creek full which would have ensured it never again saw the light of day.....................but then of course, maybe the silencer was never used.

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Re: Jeremy disposing his massacre clothes: A time for closure ?
« Reply #57 on: December 05, 2014, 04:43:PM »
Can't prove it but probably took a change of clothing with him which he changed out of before leaving the farm.  The contaminated items were then hidden, probably buried in a previously prepared location well out of sight or even weighted down and sunk in the reservoir.

He had to get rid of the clothing immediately he left the farm, he could not take the chance of them being discovered.

Remember the blood found under the seat in the car, was it related to the blood spattered clothing?







Christ,it gets worse. A " change of clothes ?" This was a murder investigation,not a holiday camp.

Blood found on the car seat was probably from Sheila when Jeremy drove her home from a party after she'd " damaged " herself. She was a self-harmer as well.
The blood proved so insignificant that the subject wasn't mentioned,which was strange considering it was inside Jeremys' car,don't you think ?
Silly question,but was it tested ?

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Re: Jeremy disposing his massacre clothes: A time for closure ?
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Christ,it gets worse. A " change of clothes ?" This was a murder investigation,not a holiday camp.

Blood found on the car seat was probably from Sheila when Jeremy drove her home from a party after she'd " damaged " herself. She was a self-harmer as well.
The blood proved so insignificant that the subject wasn't mentioned,which was strange considering it was inside Jeremys' car,don't you think ?
Silly question,but was it tested ?


Lookout, I wasn't aware that Sheila had damaged herself at the party -although I believe that at some time she cut herself when she smashed a glass/window/mirror in anger- she said she was tired and asked Colin to take her home but as he's been drinking, Jeremy and Julie took her.

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Re: Jeremy disposing his massacre clothes: A time for closure ?
« Reply #59 on: December 05, 2014, 05:27:PM »
Can't prove it but probably took a change of clothing with him which he changed out of before leaving the farm.  The contaminated items were then hidden, probably buried in a previously prepared location well out of sight or even weighted down and sunk in the reservoir.

He had to get rid of the clothing immediately he left the farm, he could not take the chance of them being discovered.

Remember the blood found under the seat in the car, was it related to the blood spattered clothing?
Pure biased speculation as usual. FACT: No evidence. Nada. Nichts. Rien. Ekkert. Intet. obviously Russian doesn't work. Niente. Nothing.
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