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« Reply #240 on: December 15, 2014, 10:15:PM »
Given that you quite explicitly state that you have access to the original photo of Sheila on the bed which you are keeping in 'safe storage', why on earth do u not pass such photo to jb's legal team?????!!!!

I'm sure you realise that jb has a better chance of being released if such a photo is passed to his legal team, rather than as appears to be the case for numerous years, u just retain the photo in ' safe storage'.

If such photo exists and u provide it to jb's legal team, your claimed proof of police staging the scene Q.E.D.

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« Reply #241 on: December 15, 2014, 10:54:PM »
The original photograph of Sheila on the bed, not the floor, is being kept on Jeremys prison file, so the longer Jeremy does nothing to get control of the situation, it is not doing himself any favours, either...

I think that is a little unfair because the prison service have total power over him . Which has been shown before the way he was moved around . So I can not see anyway he could himself get the photo .

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« Reply #242 on: December 16, 2014, 07:20:AM »
Jeremy has tried to obtain the photograph of his sister that I posted to him, along with an explanation of how I had acquired it.I think he gave up hope of ever obtaining access to it about 18 months or so, after being told that it had been confiscated because it was pii material which he was not entitled to see. Details of his application to see the contents of the letter and photograph are recorded in his prison file, as is an additional letter of explanation that I wrote to the prison governor, explaining that his entitlement to seeing that letters contents and the photograph of Sheila on the bed that I sent in, had been spoken about with Jeremy on the phone the evening of the day I obtained it. He knew about the photograph because I told him about it, and he was over the moon and excited about its existence because he said that the police had told Ann Eaton at his cotrage that Sheila's body was on the bed in the main bedroom. I had to write to the governor because at this time, Jeremy was in the process of changing solicitors, from Ewen Smith to GDS, and because I had sent the pii material and a letter covering it into Jeremy by way of the privilege rule 37A, he was banned from receiving anymore communications by this process from GDS. Jeremy was blowing his top, blaming me for 'fucking up his right to communicate with his new lawyer', so what I did is I wrote a letter of explanation to the governor in which I said that it wasn't his fault that I had sent the photograph by way of the privilege rule (37A), and I pointed out that this was a method of communicating with Jeremy which had been accepted by the Home Office on previoys occasions when I was acting as Jeremys McKensie man, and was an approved visitor of his. I also added that I had previously been allowed special visits to see Jeremy during mornings and afternoons in one of the private booths enjoted by visiting solicitors. Finally, I added that neither the prison service, nor the Home Office, had contacted me to say that these privileges previously enjoyed between Jeremy and myself had been cancelled ir stopped, and therefore I was in my right to correspibd wuth Jeremy under the privilege rule, abd even if I was wrong, the governor should lift the ban imposed upon Jeremy denying the privilege of communicating with his current lawyer under the same privilege rule (37A). Soon after, the ban was lifted...

Since then Jeremy has said that he is not pursuing the photograph of his suster on the bed because he has got sonething just as good ir better to win an appeal...
« Last Edit: December 16, 2014, 07:21:AM by mike tesko »
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« Reply #243 on: December 16, 2014, 07:22:AM »
There is not only me, who has seen the photograph of Sheila on the bed...
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« Reply #244 on: December 16, 2014, 07:29:AM »
A DC Henderson took a series of 8 photographs of Sheila on the bed at around 9.07am. He was accompanied inside the farmhoyse by DS Davidson, in the presence of senior officers, DCI's Harris, Gibbons, and Clarke. Soon afterwards, DS Jones and DC Clarke  visited the bedroom and saw Sheila's body on the bed, without the rifle, and with only a single hullet wound in her neck. At this time, Sheila was not dead, but probably very close to death. She did not bleed very much from this first wound, as evidenced by the vertical blood trail beneath the wound...
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« Reply #245 on: December 16, 2014, 07:33:AM »
There is not only me, who has seen the photograph of Sheila on the bed...



But you appear to have placed yourself centre stage by being the only one SAYING you have and the only one responsible for their distribution/safe keeping.

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« Reply #246 on: December 16, 2014, 07:52:AM »
A DC Henderson took a series of 8 photographs of Sheila on the bed at around 9.07am. He was accompanied inside the farmhoyse by DS Davidson, in the presence of senior officers, DCI's Harris, Gibbons, and Clarke. Soon afterwards, DS Jones and DC Clarke  visited the bedroom and saw Sheila's body on the bed, without the rifle, and with only a single hullet wound in her neck. At this time, Sheila was not dead, but probably very close to death. She did not bleed very much from this first wound, as evidenced by the vertical blood trail beneath the wound...



Unless it can be proved categorically WHO was responsible for taking the pictures, and I really can't see, at this stage of the game, that anyone will come forward to admit it, I don't think WHO is of interest. Of interest is that you appear to have had them for several years. You apparently sent one to Jeremy -although HE never got to see it- and it now languishes in his prison file which you say he isn't doing enough to get control of -it's my understanding that prisoners' files are only released to them on the occasion of their release. What irony that what may prove to be the ONLY means of his release won't be given him until he's released.....................unless, that it, YOU decide to release from safe keeping, to the relevant body, the copy you say you still have.

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« Reply #247 on: December 16, 2014, 12:47:PM »
Whenever there is talk about this photo, it gives me an uneasy feeling. Something ain´t right here.

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« Reply #248 on: December 16, 2014, 01:29:PM »
Whenever there is talk about this photo, it gives me an uneasy feeling. Something ain´t right here.

You and me both, I think unless there is some 'proof' of it existence; that will always be the case. I don't think it matters who 'took' it those are just 'fill in details' after it has been seen by JB's solicitor. He has a new team, I'm sure they will be interested in such evidence?
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« Reply #249 on: December 16, 2014, 04:56:PM »
It is my intention to fully expose what has taken place here. There is not going to be a quick fix to the solution, the police involved in this prosecution ain't going to get away with anything in this matter on a technicality. Which is why I am biding my time until all avenues have been explored, discussed, and taken into account. The photograph I may have got on one of my hard drives will not be enough to free Jeremy...

More is needed...

Only then will I consider making a move...
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« Reply #250 on: December 16, 2014, 05:09:PM »
It is my intention to fully expose what has taken place here. There is not going to be a quick fix to the solution, the police involved in this prosecution ain't going to get away with anything in this matter on a technicality. Which is why I am biding my time until all avenues have been explored, discussed, and taken into account. The photograph I may have got on one of my hard drives will not be enough to free Jeremy...

More is needed...

Only then will I consider making a move...

Have u got the photograph or you MAY only have it?

Who do u think knows best whether what you have is enough to free jb?  Yourself? or Jb's legal team?

How do u imagine jb feels that you are quite happy to bide your time. It's not as though we're talking days or weeks or even months, as u claim to have had access to this photo for years whilst jb just remains in jail while u happily bide your time!

"only then will I consider making a move" - so u may wait another few years biding ur time, wait for more info to come along but then still think, f*ck it I'll still do nothing!

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« Reply #251 on: December 16, 2014, 05:14:PM »
Already, there has been two opportunitues for the disclosure of a photograph showing Sheila on the bed, and nothing constructive has become of disclosing them. I can do without people telling me what to do, as though I haven't Jeremys best interests at heart. Some of you don't seem to be able to grasp that simply by disclosing the said photograph which may be in my possession, will not be enough on its own to guarantee success in any appeal. This is because the material is pii, and it is  open to any appellate court to refuse an appeal by a reliance upon 'THE IMPOSITION OF THE PRIVISO', by claiming that any grounds of appeal reliant upon use or by reference to this kind of pii material, amounts to an abuse of process, thus negating the purpose and meaning of what such a photograph of Sheila in the bed represents...
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« Reply #252 on: December 16, 2014, 05:20:PM »
Already, there has been two opportunitues for the disclosure of a photograph showing Sheila on the bed, and nothing constructive has become of disclosing them. I can do without people telling me what to do, as though I haven't Jeremys best interests at heart. Some of you don't seem to be able to grasp that simply by disclosing the said photograph which may be in my possession, will not be enough on its own to guarantee success in any appeal. This is because the material is pii, and it id open to any appellate coury to refuse an appeal by a reliance upon 'THE IMPOSITION OF THE PRIVISO', by claiming that any grounds of appeal reliant upon use or by reference to this kind of pii material, amounts to an abuse of process, thus negating the purpise and meaning of what such a phitograph of Sheila in the bed represents...

When?
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« Reply #254 on: December 16, 2014, 05:39:PM »
Already, there has been two opportunitues for the disclosure of a photograph showing Sheila on the bed, and nothing constructive has become of disclosing them. I can do without people telling me what to do, as though I haven't Jeremys best interests at heart. Some of you don't seem to be able to grasp that simply by disclosing the said photograph which may be in my possession, will not be enough on its own to guarantee success in any appeal. This is because the material is pii, and it is  open to any appellate court to refuse an appeal by a reliance upon 'THE IMPOSITION OF THE PRIVISO', by claiming that any grounds of appeal reliant upon use or by reference to this kind of pii material, amounts to an abuse of process, thus negating the purpose and meaning of what such a photograph of Sheila in the bed represents...



Mike, I haven't a clue what you mean by ANY of the above but neither am I totally stupid. Hows about finding yourself a publicist -Max Clifford no longer available- who's prepared to plaster (a copy of) said picture across the red tops and broad sheets. The country LOVES moj's and the papers would sell their souls to have a legitimate pop at the police.

It seems that you're applying conditions to as and when you'll consider making a move. I take this to mean that if those conditions aren't met, no move will be made. In the mean time, the man whose innocence you maintain languishes in prison with a game of political chess going on around him. If he dies there, it's game over.