Informatives - carried out by a gang of interferring Senior Officers...

[mike tesko]

The truth behind Sheila's body being present on the bed can easily be proven to be true, but in order to achieve that so those responsible for moving her body from the bed to the floor, it is necessary to investigate, discuss and obtain additional supporting material, so that when the time comes for those responsible to face the music, it will become almost if not impossible for them to escape punishment on a technicality. This is what I am seeking to do...

[mike tesko]

Disclosing such a photograph does not guarantee that Jeremys convictuons would automatically be quashed...

[Mr. Gee]

Disclosing such a photograph does not guarantee that Jeremys convictuons would automatically be quashed...

But if you publish the photo at least you will be able to prove to people that you have seen the photo and stop them calling you a liar. Also as all police statements agreed together as how Sheila was found and no one mentioned that she was at any time on the bed, you could prove them wrong. So if you have such a photo in your possession and have done for many years, then surely the logical thing woulf be to give it to Jeremy's defense team? Personally I can see no logical reason for you hanging on to it?

[Jane]

Disclosing such a photograph does not guarantee that Jeremys convictuons would automatically be quashed...

Perhaps not, but it would be proof that it exists, and it could set in motion a chain of events which could lead to his release.

[mike tesko]

Disclosing such a photograph does not guarantee that Jeremys convictuons would automatically be quashed...

I have been involved in two disclosures of such photographs in two different sets of circumstances and nothing constructive has become of doing that / this twice. The prison authorities have one of the photographs, yet they choose to do nothing about it. Similarly, the CCRC have a copy of the second image, yet they too do nothing at all about it. So, what makes you think that disclosing one of these photographs again to anybody is going to have the impact you expect, when previous disclosures have not had that desired effect?

[Jane]

I have been involved in two disclosures of such photographs in two different sets of circumstances and nothing constructive has become of doing that / this twice. The prison authorities have one of the photographs, yet they choose to do nothing about it. Similarly, the CCRC have a copy of the second image, yet they too do nothing at all about it. Do what makes you thi k that disclosing one of these pbotograohs afaun to anybody is going to have the impact you expect, when pre ioys dusclosures havenot had that desired effect?

Primarily because, at the moment, there seem to
be a VERY limited number who know of the existence of such pictures, and those who have seen then have squirreled them from public view. I'm sure you don't need me to tell you what effect it would have if the general public were to see them plastered all over the papers with the caption "INNOCENT MAN SPENDS 30 YEARS BEHIND BARS FOR MURDERS HE DIDN'T COMMIT".

[Alias]

Mike, as far as I remember, you wrote here that you were on the way with the photo to deliver it at the last CCRC submission. You said you were on the steps. What happened, Mike?

BTW. there is a whole, very long thread about how you lost the photo. Did you lose it and find it again - or?

Here is what you said more than two and a half years ago:

Quote from: mike tesko on May 14, 2012, 08:38:PM

    Yes, that's alright, I know everyone wants to see the picture of Sheila on the bed, and I will soon be taking steps to bring it into the hands of those who need it most. I am due to meet my informant in the morning in Glasgow to discuss the possibility of the other photographs of Sheila on the bed with only one wound to her neck' also being made available to those in most need of it. One thing I am not and that is that I do not tell lies, I might on occasions keep quiet and say nothing, but there is a difference between doing that and telling lies (in my opinion). Just you lot wait until you see the evidence I have been talking about for all these months, it's going to blow your minds away...
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,2593.msg87914.html#msg87914

[Jane]

Mike, as far as I remember, you wrote here that you were on the way with the photo to deliver it at the last CCRC submission. You said you were on the steps. What happened, Mike?

BTW. there is a whole, very long thread about how you lost the photo. Did you lose it and find it again - or?

Here is what you said more than two and a half years ago:

Quote from: mike tesko on May 14, 2012, 08:38:PM

    Yes, that's alright, I know everyone wants to see the picture of Sheila on the bed, and I will soon be taking steps to bring it into the hands of those who need it most. I am due to meet my informant in the morning in Glasgow to discuss the possibility of the other photographs of Sheila on the bed with only one wound to her neck' also being made available to those in most need of it. One thing I am not and that is that I do not tell lies, I might on occasions keep quiet and say nothing, but there is a difference between doing that and telling lies (in my opinion). Just you lot wait until you see the evidence I have been talking about for all these months, it's going to blow your minds away...
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,2593.msg87914.html#msg87914

Should I stop holding my breath, Alias?

[Alias]

Should I stop holding my breath, Alias?

I don´t know, but I have stopped a long time ago.

[mike tesko]

Primarily because, at the moment, there seem to
be a VERY limited number who know of the existence of such pictures, and those who have seen then have squirreled them from public view. I'm sure you don't need me to tell you what effect it would have if the general public were to see them plastered all over the papers with the caption "INNOCENT MAN SPENDS 30 YEARS BEHIND BARS FOR MURDERS HE DIDN'T COMMIT".

Exactly, I am of that view, but now is not the time for this to happen, we need back up, we need to investigate, we need to discuss, we need to be prepared for what lies ahead. Be patient, Jeremys liberty relies on how we proceed in this matter, The prison service and the home office are not prepared to speak out about the existence of that photograph of Sheila's body on the bed, similarly, the CCRC has its hands tied - nobody can speak out, because its covered by pii. Anyone who thinks the judges at the appellate court will accept such a photograph on its own, as sufficient evidence to guarantee the convictions are quashed, think again, because the authoroties are as thick as thieves when it comes to trying to keep the image of law and order in a good light. Nothing in this case is simple, too much is at stake...

[Jan]

Exactly, I am of that view, but now is not the time for this to happen, we need back up, we need to investigate, we need to discuss, we need to be prepared for what lies ahead. Be patient, Jeremys liberty relies on how we proceed in this matter, The prison service and the home office are not prepared to speak out about the existence of that photograph of Sheila's body on the bed, similarly, the CCRC has its hands tied - nobody can speak out, because its covered by pii. Anyone who thinks the judges at the appellate court will accept such a photograph on its own, as sufficient evidence to guarantee the convictions are quashed, think again, because the authoroties are as thick as thieves when it comes to trying to keep the image of law and order in a good light. Nothing in this case is simple, too much is at stake...

Its easy - the guardian have always backed Jeremy if they were sent a copy then they could contact Jeremy and ask him how to proceed with it?  Personally I don't think Jeremy being released on a technicality would be good for him. However if the Jury made their decision based on false crime scene photos then surely the case is blown wide open.

And there would have to be very good reason for the police to move the body to the floor to take the crime scene photos and funnily enough I can not see one.

The prison service are part of the establishment so its obvious they wont help.

So if the picture exists then it should go to his defence team/ the guardian / or the one person who seems to be willing to stand up to the police , Theresa May.

And surely NOW is the right time .What better time is there?

[mike tesko]

We need to gather as much supporting information as we can get, to support the existence of these 8 photographs that were taken by a DC Henderson, at around 9.07am, that morning in the main bedroom...

We can start by investigating the role played by PC 'David' Bird, in producing misleading photographic schedules, for (a) THE MASTER COPY ALBUM (consisting if 223 photographs), and (b) THE COURT ALBUM (consisting of 50 photographs, as compared against the 223 photographs of the master copy album). A further 358 photographs excluded from PC Birds presentation...

[mike tesko]

What I would like to see, is the photograohic schedule for each of the

[Jane]

Exactly, I am of that view, but now is not the time for this to happen, we need back up, we need to investigate, we need to discuss, we need to be prepared for what lies ahead. Be patient, Jeremys liberty relies on how we proceed in this matter, The prison service and the home office are not prepared to speak out about the existence of that photograph of Sheila's body on the bed, similarly, the CCRC has its hands tied - nobody can speak out, because its covered by pii. Anyone who thinks the judges at the appellate court will accept such a photograph on its own, as sufficient evidence to guarantee the convictions are quashed, think again, because the authoroties are as thick as thieves when it comes to trying to keep the image of law and order in a good light. Nothing in this case is simple, too much is at stake...

Mike, from where will this back up come if the few who have the pictures are keeping them hidden. The general public, who Jeremy NEEDS to be on  his side, won't be prepared to take on trust that these pictures exist. Give people proof that the case needs to be looked at again and they'll back you all the way. 

[mike tesko]

Mike, from where will this back up come if the few who have the pictures are keeping them hidden. The general public, who Jeremy NEEDS to be on  his side, won't be prepared to take on trust that these pictures exist. Give people proof that the case needs to be looked at again and they'll back you all the way.

I have the proof, or to be more precise, I have got access to the truth. I need to ensure that certain safeguards are in place before I release any images that I might have got access to. Informant has said he will have printed off from a negative in his possession, one of the 8 photographs taken at the scene at around 9.07am, which shows Sheila (still barely alive) on the bed with a single almost bloodless bullet wound present on her throat. No blood running from the corners of her mouth or nostrils, no blood running diagonally across her neck, no blood in her left eye socket - lots of proof that this photograph of Sheila on the bed with a single wound, must have been taken prior to photographs taken by PC 'David' Bird, from 10 O'clock onwards by which time Sheila's body has been moved onto the bedroom floor. Now how can it possibly be true that the original six man raid team found Shsila's body in the bedroom floor with the rifle at the window on her body, and she having two bullet holes in her neck, and all the additional blood all over the place, where previously there had been  none?