Would the People Who Help Jeremy Really Continue to do so if the phone calls proved Guilt

[Jan]

What, d'yer mean when a loaf of bread was a farthing and a pint o' beeyer wer' thruppence three farthings? Aye them were th' darez.

the old music hall songs! Roll out the barrel and that sort of thing - not medieval

BTW  Adam is ageist. 
And very rude.

[Reader]

would they?

Of course. They do prove guilt... that's why the full details about them are being withheld.

[Mr. Gee]

the old music hall songs! Roll out the barrel and that sort of thing - not medieval

BTW  Adam is ageist. 
And very rude.

Perhaps he works for the BBC?

[lookout]

 It's always been that second shot to Sheila that's baffled me--------------nothing else.

Sheila would have been dead in no time after the first shot,so why was the second shot administerd AFTER she'd died ?

[lookout]

 We all know that it's RARE for anyone committing suicide,to shoot themselves more than once,so who fired that second shot because it wasn't Sheila.? To make it look like suicide ? An accident ?

[maggie]

We all know that it's RARE for anyone committing suicide,to shoot themselves more than once,so who fired that second shot because it wasn't Sheila.? To make it look like suicide ? An accident ?

Sorry to disagree Lookout but it is a possibility that Sheila fired both shots. The first shot hit a vein not an artery therefore after initial stunning she could have been capable of finishing the job. Although mainly confused her mind could have been crystal clear about what she wanted to do and how to do it. Shock can shut down our awareness of our surroundings etc but the brain can have real lucidity in our driving force at that time....... in my experience

[Roch]

Of course. They do prove guilt... that's why the full details about them are being withheld.

Do you mean that the full details prove the guilt of person/s other than Jeremy Bamber?

[lookout]

Sorry to disagree Lookout but it is a possibility that Sheila fired both shots. The first shot hit a vein not an artery therefore after initial stunning she could have been capable of finishing the job. Although mainly confused her mind could have been crystal clear about what she wanted to do and how to do it. Shock can shut down our awareness of our surroundings etc but the brain can have real lucidity in our driving force at that time....... in my experience

I'm not fully a 100% either way on this one Maggie. One can make several suicide attempts on their lives,over time,but the final decision of the poor soul is to make that last final " shot " ( sorry ) at ending their lives and in Sheilas' case,she possibly thought that just one gunshot would be sufficient to " see her to a better place ". I'm thinking of how exhausted and ill she'd have been to have had the energy or wherewithall to have administered a second shot when she'd have been near to death after the first.

[lookout]

I've never been comfortable with the shots in Sheilas' neck,as I've always been of the belief that the first one was done by someone else's hand.That having been the case,then my mind would be fully made up that Sheila would,indeed ,have self-administered the second one,making it her one and only attempt at suicide,bless her.

[maggie]

I've never been comfortable with the shots in Sheilas' neck,as I've always been of the belief that the first one was done by someone else's hand.That having been the case,then my mind would be fully made up that Sheila would,indeed ,have self-administered the second one,making it her one and only attempt at suicide,bless her.

I cannot accept that any other person than the killer or Sheila delivered the first shot and if it was the killer am certain he must have shot her the second time as well IMO but it is just an opinion .

[susan]

Hello Maggie  I agree the two shots to Sheila's neck were either carried out by herself or the killer

[Reader]

Do you mean that the full details prove the guilt of person/s other than Jeremy Bamber?

Yes, essentially guilty of perverting the course of justice (or misconduct in public office at least).

[Caroline]

Of course. They do prove guilt... that's why the full details about them are being withheld.

The full details have not been withheld - we know the full details. People simply refuse to accept the FULL details because it doesn't go with an innocent opinion. Some even going so far as to try and alter the times that Jeremy himself gave in his initial statements and invent a scenario where calls were monitored. Trying to wheedle out the invented fiction from this case is impossible because it just keeps being perpetuated in vain hope.

[Alias]

We all know that it's RARE for anyone committing suicide,to shoot themselves more than once,so who fired that second shot because it wasn't Sheila.? To make it look like suicide ? An accident ?

It is true that it is rare, but double or multiple gunshot suicides do happen.

Lookout, if you think that someone else than Sheila fired the second shot - it must have been Jeremy (or a possible accomplice) - as I see things.

Edit to add - well, both shots would have been fired by Jeremy.

[nugnug]

about 1 in 10 suicides by gun are from multiple gun shot wounds.