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« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2014, 08:17:PM »


Of course it is to do with the murders.

We were not complaining . £40000  is a lot of money in the 80s.,when during the trial he did not say his gun was there and he did not say it was not. The paper was not accusing him of murder or using the gun? We were just asking the question why it was such a lot of money .

can you show me a statement before the trial where he said he had taken his gun home and it was NOT at WHF?

So get your facts right about what we are querying.

The article was written well after trial- after he provided a statement that he removed the bolt while the gun was left at WHF and that he took his gun home with him when he left WHF a week before the murders.  The fact he didn't go into such details in writing prior to the murders makes no difference since he had detialed it in writing before the article was published and the article ignored such.

 
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« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2014, 08:57:PM »
The article was written well after trial- after he provided a statement that he removed the bolt while the gun was left at WHF and that he took his gun home with him when he left WHF a week before the murders.  The fact he didn't go into such details in writing prior to the murders makes no difference since he had detialed it in writing before the article was published and the article ignored such.

So before and during the trial he did not say he had taken his gun home - its a simple question. If that is not true what date did he say he had taken the gun home and not just removed the bolt?

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« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2014, 10:35:PM »
So before and during the trial he did not say he had taken his gun home - its a simple question. If that is not true what date did he say he had taken the gun home and not just removed the bolt?

In writing he clarified the issue during the COLP investigation.  What he verbally told police regarding the issue at the time of the investigation is obviously not documented.  Police didn't record the interviews with the family they just had statements written up regarding points they wanted on the record for others to see as opposed to simply for the use of the lowly investigators in which verbal is ok.
The people at the higher levels want statements so they can show them to others and not have to just make claims themselves of what was told. In some instances those statements are made under oath others times not.

The newspaper knew he clarified the issue but didn't mention such and pretended he was claiming the gun was at the house at the time of the murders. he Eatons are the ones who took all the guns from WHF that police failed to take.  They said AP's rifle was not among them.  So the newspaper had reson to know the gun was not there thanks to the testimony of the Eatons as well as AP's COLP testimony.  They ignored there was no evidence the gun was there and suggested it was by claiming AP admits it was there. 

The paper had nothing on its side to defend their claim as true, that is why they lost. 



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« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2014, 09:59:AM »
You never back up your claims with any documentation.

Where is the list of what the Eatons removed from WHF ?


How do you know what they took?

What did the police pick up from them besides the silencer?

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« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2014, 10:01:AM »
BTW - knowing the newspaper they probably made a full accusation of murder. After all they are the paper who found a WW2 plane on the moon - oh and Elvis was there as well.

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« Reply #35 on: November 18, 2014, 06:52:PM »
You never back up your claims with any documentation.

Where is the list of what the Eatons removed from WHF ?


How do you know what they took?

What did the police pick up from them besides the silencer?

It is in the statements of police as well as the Eatons posted on this site if you actually bother to read them.   

The scope, ammunition and various shotguns were turned over in September, in August police were only interested in the moderator. 
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« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2014, 06:57:PM »
BTW - knowing the newspaper they probably made a full accusation of murder. After all they are the paper who found a WW2 plane on the moon - oh and Elvis was there as well.

That is not what AP critics are claiming they printed though.  If that is what was printed the critics are even more off base and the libel judgment a forgone conclusion.



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« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2014, 07:10:PM »
It is in the statements of police as well as the Eatons posted on this site if you actually bother to read them.   

The scope, ammunition and various shotguns were turned over in September, in August police were only interested in the moderator.


Just saying various "guns" I think it says rather than shotguns - is not a list - it does not even say how many they took from the house - I did read Annes statement . It just says they took guns and ammunition they found.

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« Reply #38 on: November 19, 2014, 03:07:PM »

Just saying various "guns" I think it says rather than shotguns - is not a list - it does not even say how many they took from the house - I did read Annes statement . It just says they took guns and ammunition they found.

Why didn't you read David's statement?  He's the one who found them and alerted everyone else to them.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1080.msg33195.html#msg33195

The police records show they took these guns from the Eatons in September along with the extra ammunition and telescopic sights.

Police took the murder weapon and 1 shotgun the day of the murders. They left these behind.

For our purposes it doesn't really matter when these items were taken because none of the wounds were caused by the shotguns or an air rifle pellet. So there is no need to bother detiling them beyond saying shotguns and air rifle.

But the answer was there if you actually read the materials at your disposal. 

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« Reply #39 on: November 19, 2014, 07:50:PM »
Just to throw a spanner in the works so to speak, I believe there are two inventories of the guns in the house at the time of the murders. One by the Eatons and the other from Jeremy. I think they both agree together? But I can't find the two inventories on the forum at he moment?