The proposed purchase of a Porsche by the appellant

[Jan]

Oh great - Adams side kick is back as well.

more rudeness to come I guess.

Some parents don't teach their children manners do they.

[scipio_usmc]

You have just killed your entire family. Stage the killing of your sister as a suicide, setting out to pin the murders on her - but you shoot her twice, oh well, never mind, the stupid coppers will buy that, you tell yourself. You then unscrew the silencer you used, hide it in the back of a cupboard, blood, paint and hair on it, but heck, the cops ARE stupid, you think to yourself.

Later when you meet with the cops outside the house, you tell them all about how you are going to buy a Porche and that you don´t like your sister, whom you just killed. You also think it is a great idea to accuse the police of shooting your family once they found the dead bodies.

It has a ring of truth to it, RIGHT?! 

It makes alot more sense than SHeila doing the impossible and killing eveyrone else and herself without getting their blood on her or any GSR, after she was dead moving her body flat, placing the bible in a pool of her wet blood and putting the moderator in the closet, Julie making up eveyrthing, Nevill calling his son instead of arming himself, disarming Sheila with his bare hands, or calling 999, Sheila knowing how to chamber a round though she never used the gun before nor did they ever use other semi-autos around her so she had no idea a round even needed to be chambered not to mention June staying in bed through everything and Nevill marched upstairs so they coudl be shot together plus Sheila deciding to get 5-7 rounds from the closet instead of using all 25 rounds from the pile of bullets in the kitchen.   

Anyone suggesting such is likely is living in a fantasy world.

This is before even looking at Jeremy's actions. Anyone suggesting Jeremy's alleged actions make sense if he really had received a call from Nevill likewise are living in a fantasy world.

Receiving a call from Nevill then instead of calling 999 or rushing there to calling Julie and eventually look up the number of police stations, to be required to go to the scene so drive slow making sure police arrive first then for him to lie to police saying Sheila fired all weapons and calmly chatting with them instead of trying to look in the windows or go in the house like he had the ability to do (though at the time he lied and said there was no way in except breaking down the door), calling Julie at 6Am to tell her not to go to work because she would need to tell police about the call he received from Nevill... makes no sense at all unless he killed his family.

[Mr. Gee]

Thank you for you're long reply. Retirement boredom ?

Yes I notice you did not make a scenario. Although I politely asked you to.

Thought it would be easy. You know how many bullets were fired, where and who was in WHF & where they were when shot or brutally beaten. Or both. 

It was easy for me to make one for Jeremy. Which matched everything.

Then again, no one can even explain what Sheila was doing when Neville made his 'mysterious' phone call to Jeremy.

It is easy. It is very easy. That is the precisely why I said I don't do senarios. But you still haven't got it have you Adam. It is nothing at all do dp with politeness. Of course your scenario matches everything. What man invents man understands. But the plain facts are that we do not know exactly what happened. What, are you some kind of clairvoyant?

[Mr. Gee]

Do you agree with Grahame that it was a coincidence that Jeremy brought his mothers bike to his cottage just before the massacre ?

Just about as coincidential as him getting up in the morning of the day before. If nothing had happened then you would obviously not see it as a coincidence.

[Mr. Gee]

Jeremy spent a month gallivanting around Europe after the massacre. Was AE tagging along ?

As did Mugford remember. Although to be fair to him we don't actually know what happened. I believe that Colin also went away. Do you count that as suspicious as well?

[Mr. Gee]

What's you're excuse for boredom then ? Waiting to sign on ??
I think Mr G and myself have well and truly earned our " right to boredom " after 50 odd years of work. I wonder if you could say the same ?

Well at least we do this in our retirement instead of slealing our boss's time.

[Mr. Gee]

In any case, it is incredibly rude and makes me very angry! 

P.S. you shouldn´t throw stones if you live in a glass house. The poster who constantly brags about the amounts of threads he creates and all that..... What kind of boredom is that, you have to wonder?

I don't worry about it Alias. You know what the proverb says?, "Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child".

[Alias]

I don't worry about it Alias. You know what the proverb says?, "Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child".

I cannot help that such behaviour makes me angry. I lose everything for people who behave like that!

[Mr. Gee]

This is hogwash.

You support Jeremy at every turn for irraitonal reaosns, attack those who beleive the evidence proving his guilt and betray your bias reguarly.

If you were the unbiased, rational freethinker you purport to be then you would face there is no way Sheila could have:

1) killed herself or anyone else without getting GSR on her gown and hand that pulled the trigger
2) could have killed her her mother and father without getting their blood in the form of high velocity impact spatter on her clothing and body as well as medium impact spatter on her clothing and body from Nevill and blood to have transferred from the weapon to her gown as well and her hands to have not left fingerprints in blood on the weapon unless she was wearing gloves
3) Moved her blody flat after she died
4) placed the bible in a pool of her own wet blood that formed after she died
5) removed the moderator and put it away in the closet after she was dead

There is consierably more evidence proving Jeremy's guilt but any raitonal freethinker can't get aorund this evidence.  The defense had no experts who could help them get around this evidence either at trial or even now.

Instead of being an unbiased freethinker you have decided to pretend that somehow the above evidence was planted and fabricated though you have not a shred of evidence to suggest such actually happened you just choose to beleive it because you don't want to face Jeremy's guilt.

The same can be said for everyone hear who quesitons his guilt.  Despite months of prodding you all for rational bases for your positions and evidence to support same you have all demonstrated no ration basis for your claims just bias built upon deception and distortions that run from distortions of fact to distortions of legal principles to try to pretend the prosecution failed to meet the legal burden required by law.

All those who question his guilt who are honest would admit they are going on blind faith nothing more because that is the relaity of it.

Don't be silly scipio. Just grow up and accept the fact that you have just succeeded in brainwashing yourself into having a polarized brain with a total inability to think rational and balanced thought. You certainly are impotent in being able to look at things from another's point of view. Ngb is a far better lawyer than you are and also has the ability of seeing things from other people's perspective without insulting them like you do from your pinacle of personal piety.

[Mr. Gee]

Hello scipio just my take on things which is of course my right

It's no good Susan he doesn't think it is your right. As I said he is totally impotent in sharing other people's views. Take my advice and just leave him to wallow in his own mire of delusion.

[Mr. Gee]

I don't attribute the kindness that Susan shows you - I think you know exactly what you are doing.

You have been given scenarios of how Sheila did it - you ignore them - that's entirely your choice.

When you are on the back foot you resort to allegations and rudeness to the posters and sarcasm

you show no respect for Sheilas illness whatsoever because by doing that you might be showing a chink in your armour.

you exaggerate any point that fits your scenario or your assumptions about Jeremy.

I don't think you are some young whippersnapper that will learn - no way - and guess what I am no old dear either.

I'm afraid he is completely devoid of good manners and has managed to learn absolutely no people skills whatsoever. He must have been brought up in a monestary?

[Mr. Gee]

Oh great - Adams side kick is back as well.

more rudeness to come I guess.

Some parents don't teach their children manners do they.

I don't think he had any parents? He was probably immaculately conceived. If you look closely you may find 666 stamped on his head?

[lookout]

Donkey-bred I'd have said. It rhymes too.

[Mr. Gee]

It makes alot more sense than SHeila doing the impossible and killing eveyrone else and herself without getting their blood on her or any GSR, after she was dead moving her body flat, placing the bible in a pool of her wet blood and putting the moderator in the closet, Julie making up eveyrthing, Nevill calling his son instead of arming himself, disarming Sheila with his bare hands, or calling 999, Sheila knowing how to chamber a round though she never used the gun before nor did they ever use other semi-autos around her so she had no idea a round even needed to be chambered not to mention June staying in bed through everything and Nevill marched upstairs so they coudl be shot together plus Sheila deciding to get 5-7 rounds from the closet instead of using all 25 rounds from the pile of bullets in the kitchen.   

Anyone suggesting such is likely is living in a fantasy world.

This is before even looking at Jeremy's actions. Anyone suggesting Jeremy's alleged actions make sense if he really had received a call from Nevill likewise are living in a fantasy world.

Receiving a call from Nevill then instead of calling 999 or rushing there to calling Julie and eventually look up the number of police stations, to be required to go to the scene so drive slow making sure police arrive first then for him to lie to police saying Sheila fired all weapons and calmly chatting with them instead of trying to look in the windows or go in the house like he had the ability to do (though at the time he lied and said there was no way in except breaking down the door), calling Julie at 6Am to tell her not to go to work because she would need to tell police about the call he received from Nevill... makes no sense at all unless he killed his family.

You really do have a very shallow thought pattern don't you? I find it amazing and somewhat laughable that you cannot stretch your thoughts very far at all.

[scipio_usmc]

You really do have a very shallow thought pattern don't you? I find it amazing and somewhat laughable that you cannot stretch your thoughts very far at all.

Thinking irraitonally in order to try to pretend Jeremy is innocent woudl make me a fool.