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Re: The proposed purchase of a Porsche by the appellant
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2014, 10:08:AM »
They certainly did, whatever was said at that time was general conversation. Whether Jeremy Bamber is guilty or innocent the constant scrutiny and misrepresentation of every word he said is pathetic IMO and proves nothing. Anyway how stupid do some believe the man is? IF he had just carried out such a horrendous crime in such cold blood he must be a person lacking all emotion, why then would he be so careless as to implicate himself by speaking of plans to buy a car costing many thousands of pounds and way out of his league? It simply doesn't make sense.





Maggie,this is a sad indictment of the way society has gone,over the years.
I know I'm going off the subject in a way,but take the old " whiplash " injury cases. Some are genuine,but an awful lot aren't ! Exaggeration appears in all forms,and mountains out of mole-hills springs to mind.
The police in some instances, work this way to elaborate on a story/incident,and I KNOW this happens,but I won't speak of it on here. Police do these things usually for recognition/promotion,or in extreme cases-----------compensation ! The corruption is rife,believe me.
If they can build a case on the tiniest bit of " non-evidence ",they will,then the media takes over with ridiculously bold headlines which the general public takes in as being gospel,while the perpetrators ( police )escape with impunity just because they can, as they know every twist and turn when it comes to the law,it being on THEIR side.
What hope has Jeremy got when it must be ringing in his ears that " he will die in jail ",because there'll always also be those prison officers who are also corrupt,who'll remind him,Jeremy,that he'll never see the outside world.? Doubtless,one or two will have been small children when the WHF tragedy happened,therefore would NOT know the full story but just follow others,parrot-fashion with no explanation about him being " guilty " except that he's locked up.

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Re: The proposed purchase of a Porsche by the appellant
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2014, 10:11:AM »
The police were worried about him thats why they asked the doctor to take a walk with him as well.

I don't think he said half the things they attributed to him in the September. That was just to paint a picture of why they did not go in the house straight away.

Lets face it in the beginning they had no idea that a single shot had even be fired. Jeremy never said that . She could have just been waving it about and ranting and raving.

 

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Re: The proposed purchase of a Porsche by the appellant
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2014, 10:14:AM »
They certainly did, whatever was said at that time was general conversation. Whether Jeremy Bamber is guilty or innocent the constant scrutiny and misrepresentation of every word he said is pathetic IMO and proves nothing. Anyway how stupid do some believe the man is? IF he had just carried out such a horrendous crime in such cold blood he must be a person lacking all emotion, why then would he be so careless as to implicate himself by speaking of plans to buy a car costing many thousands of pounds and way out of his league? It simply doesn't make sense.

and how stupid do you have be to belive the uncobrated word of a policeman.

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Re: The proposed purchase of a Porsche by the appellant
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2014, 10:17:AM »
and how stupid do you have be to belive the uncobrated word of a policeman.





Extremely stupid,nugs.

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Re: The proposed purchase of a Porsche by the appellant
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2014, 11:44:AM »
They certainly did, whatever was said at that time was general conversation. Whether Jeremy Bamber is guilty or innocent the constant scrutiny and misrepresentation of every word he said is pathetic IMO and proves nothing. Anyway how stupid do some believe the man is? IF he had just carried out such a horrendous crime in such cold blood he must be a person lacking all emotion, why then would he be so careless as to implicate himself by speaking of plans to buy a car costing many thousands of pounds and way out of his league? It simply doesn't make sense.

It doesn´t make sense either, that Jeremy had just killed his family, and in conversation with police outside the house, he said that he didn´t like his sister much.
Probably the last thing he would have said if he had done it!

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Re: The proposed purchase of a Porsche by the appellant
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2014, 11:58:AM »
It doesn´t make sense either, that Jeremy had just killed his family, and in conversation with police outside the house, he said that he didn´t like his sister much.
Probably the last thing he would have said if he had done it!
Yeah, stupid and clever don't usually go hand in hand.

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Re: The proposed purchase of a Porsche by the appellant
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2014, 12:00:PM »
As the judge said, he was expertly leading the police into a direction.

Saying Sheila was a looney, psychotic depressive, do lally & a nutter. He also said Sheila committed child abuse against the twins.

After saying that he's not exactly going to say him & Sheila are best mates.

Saying Sheila does get on with Jeremy  reinforces the impression Jeremy was giving to the police that Sheila was a 'nutter'. Surely any sane person would get on with a nice charming man like Jeremy.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2014, 12:02:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: The proposed purchase of a Porsche by the appellant
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2014, 12:15:PM »
As the judge said, he was expertly leading the police into a direction.

Saying Sheila was a looney, psychotic depressive, do lally & a nutter. He also said Sheila committed child abuse against the twins.

After saying that he's not exactly going to say him & Sheila are best mates.

Saying Sheila does get on with Jeremy  reinforces the impression Jeremy was giving to the police that Sheila was a 'nutter'. Surely any sane person would get on with a nice charming man like Jeremy.
You certainly choose your 'quotes' very carefully Adam, most of what you assert in the above can be contradicted by other police statements........  you prove nothing  :)

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Re: The proposed purchase of a Porsche by the appellant
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2014, 12:37:PM »
It doesn´t make sense either, that Jeremy had just killed his family, and in conversation with police outside the house, he said that he didn´t like his sister much.
Probably the last thing he would have said if he had done it!





If Jeremy had murdered,he'd have been gushing/overacting with sentiment towards his family. Murderers tend to put on an act.  Probably because he appeared silent, pensive and didn't show enough emotion,that's what clinched it  ::)

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Re: The proposed purchase of a Porsche by the appellant
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2014, 02:01:PM »
As the judge said, he was expertly leading the police into a direction.

Saying Sheila was a looney, psychotic depressive, do lally & a nutter. He also said Sheila committed child abuse against the twins.

After saying that he's not exactly going to say him & Sheila are best mates.

Saying Sheila does get on with Jeremy  reinforces the impression Jeremy was giving to the police that Sheila was a 'nutter'. Surely any sane person would get on with a nice charming man like Jeremy.


Again - I ask you to show me a statement from an officer from August where he said anything but the name for her illness. And you have been asked to refrain from using the terms above on several occasions. Language like that is not PC now. The police called Jeremy and Brett several derogatory terms that are not acceptable now , even if they were then , which is why we do not repeat them now.

Just because you post something over an over again it does not make it have more effect , it just makes you look desperate.

Jeremy admitted he did not understand her illness  - but he had discussed with Colin that he did not think that june was getting the correct treatment for her.

So in your opinion - do you think Sheila was not ill ? And the thoughts she had about her sons and her boyfriend were normal?



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Re: The proposed purchase of a Porsche by the appellant
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2014, 02:47:PM »
at the end of the day we dont really know what was said.

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Re: The proposed purchase of a Porsche by the appellant
« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2014, 02:58:PM »

Again - I ask you to show me a statement from an officer from August where he said anything but the name for her illness. And you have been asked to refrain from using the terms above on several occasions. Language like that is not PC now. The police called Jeremy and Brett several derogatory terms that are not acceptable now , even if they were then , which is why we do not repeat them now.

Just because you post something over an over again it does not make it have more effect , it just makes you look desperate.

Jeremy admitted he did not understand her illness  - but he had discussed with Colin that he did not think that june was getting the correct treatment for her.

So in your opinion - do you think Sheila was not ill ? And the thoughts she had about her sons and her boyfriend were normal?

PC or not, it is what the police said Jeremy said.

It is common knowledge he said these things.

The statements have already been posted on here. It may have even been you that posted one of them. When I quoted the statement you said the statement was wrong.

A policeman testified that Jeremy told him that Sheila had committed child abuse against the twins. When asked, Jeremy said he had not reported this.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2014, 03:02:PM by Adam »
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Re: The proposed purchase of a Porsche by the appellant
« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2014, 03:04:PM »
its common knowledge that the police cliamed he said these things big diffrence.

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Re: The proposed purchase of a Porsche by the appellant
« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2014, 03:35:PM »
PC or not, it is what the police said Jeremy said.

It is common knowledge he said these things.

The statements have already been posted on here. It may have even been you that posted one of them. When I quoted the statement you said the statement was wrong.

A policeman testified that Jeremy told him that Sheila had committed child abuse against the twins. When asked, Jeremy said he had not reported this.


Adam do you really believe that the police would not lie or embellish to get their man? They have done it in other cases .

And as you have so clearly pointed out it is one persons word against another .

It has already been shown with what was said about the car  so why not other things?.

If they were covering their backs they were not going to admit what was actually said. A bit of embellishment goes a long way.

It has certainly taken you in.

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Re: The proposed purchase of a Porsche by the appellant
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2014, 08:04:PM »
You have just killed your entire family. Stage the killing of your sister as a suicide, setting out to pin the murders on her - but you shoot her twice, oh well, never mind, the stupid coppers will buy that, you tell yourself. You then unscrew the silencer you used, hide it in the back of a cupboard, blood, paint and hair on it, but heck, the cops ARE stupid, you think to yourself.

Later when you meet with the cops outside the house, you tell them all about how you are going to buy a Porche and that you don´t like your sister, whom you just killed. You also think it is a great idea to accuse the police of shooting your family once they found the dead bodies.

It has a ring of truth to it, RIGHT?!  :P