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Jeremy's 'dirty protest'. Why ?
« on: October 31, 2014, 07:02:PM »
When in August 1992 the Police Complaints Authority dismissed Jeremy's concerns over the way the original investigation was handled by Essex Constabulary, he joined five other inmates in Franklin, Durham in wrecking their cells and pasting the words “FREE BAMBER HE IS INNOCENT” in excrement on the walls.

This shows Jeremy's persuasiveness. Managing to convince five other in mates to join him. Anyway I digress. Why did he do this ?

Obviously he was upset at not winning his claim. But there would have been other reasons.

The early 90's was probably a low point in the 'Campaign for Freedom'.

It was no secret that Jeremy enjoyed the attention at trial. During the trial there was always the possibility of getting a 'not guilty' verdict. Resulting in him becoming a rich, famous and 'innocent' man. However a guilty verdict put him inside. A quick appeal came to nothing and the next appeal was years away. There was no internet and the media & public moved onto the next big story. Jeremy was going nowhere fast.

So his protest was frustration that his 'watertight' plan had not only got him convicted and kept him inside, but he couldn't even give the police a body blow.

Of course the 'Campaign for Freedom' became more effective after 2002 for various reasons.

The other reason for the 'Dirty Protest' was precisely because no one was taking much interest in the case. So his tantrum would not be an issue of discussion years later and may have even been kept inside the prison walls. Which would be useful if the 'Campaign for Freedom' became more effective.

Is the real Jeremy Bamber the man who was a 'mummy's boy'  Or someone who gets angry when he doesn't get what he wants ?
« Last Edit: October 31, 2014, 07:43:PM by Adam »
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Re: Jeremy's 'dirty protest'. Why ?
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2014, 09:54:PM »
When in August 1992 the Police Complaints Authority dismissed Jeremy's concerns over the way the original investigation was handled by Essex Constabulary, he joined five other inmates in Franklin, Durham in wrecking their cells and pasting the words “FREE BAMBER HE IS INNOCENT” in excrement on the walls.

This shows Jeremy's persuasiveness. Managing to convince five other in mates to join him. Anyway I digress. Why did he do this ?

Obviously he was upset at not winning his claim. But there would have been other reasons.

The early 90's was probably a low point in the 'Campaign for Freedom'.

It was no secret that Jeremy enjoyed the attention at trial. During the trial there was always the possibility of getting a 'not guilty' verdict. Resulting in him becoming a rich, famous and 'innocent' man. However a guilty verdict put him inside. A quick appeal came to nothing and the next appeal was years away. There was no internet and the media & public moved onto the next big story. Jeremy was going nowhere fast.

So his protest was frustration that his 'watertight' plan had not only got him convicted and kept him inside, but he couldn't even give the police a body blow.

Of course the 'Campaign for Freedom' became more effective after 2002 for various reasons.

The other reason for the 'Dirty Protest' was precisely because no one was taking much interest in the case. So his tantrum would not be an issue of discussion years later and may have even been kept inside the prison walls. Which would be useful if the 'Campaign for Freedom' became more effective.

Is the real Jeremy Bamber the man who was a 'mummy's boy'  Or someone who gets angry when he doesn't get what he wants ?
If you want people who post in a thread to keep to the point then do not digress in the original post.
This is not Jeremy's "persuasiveness" as you put it. But other prisoners have a way of knowing if someone is guilty or not. Remember they are in each other's company for months maybe years on end. Prison is very difficult place to keep up appearances. Prisoners soon find out the truth about fellow prisoners.

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Re: Jeremy's 'dirty protest'. Why ?
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2014, 02:02:AM »
If you want people who post in a thread to keep to the point then do not digress in the original post.
This is not Jeremy's "persuasiveness" as you put it. But other prisoners have a way of knowing if someone is guilty or not. Remember they are in each other's company for months maybe years on end. Prison is very difficult place to keep up appearances. Prisoners soon find out the truth about fellow prisoners.

Well the five other prisoners that Jeremy persuaded to also wreak their cells & write 'FREE BAMBER HE IS INNOCENT' in excrement, probably had a grudge against the authorities. After all they were in prison.

Not sure how Jeremy could prove his innocence to them from inside. Mind you Mike said he spent a few hours sharing a cell with him in the early 90's. He has been campaigning ever since.
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Re: Jeremy's 'dirty protest'. Why ?
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2014, 02:05:AM »
If you want people who post in a thread to keep to the point then do not digress in the original post.
This is not Jeremy's "persuasiveness" as you put it. But other prisoners have a way of knowing if someone is guilty or not. Remember they are in each other's company for months maybe years on end. Prison is very difficult place to keep up appearances. Prisoners soon find out the truth about fellow prisoners.

Why do you think Jeremy wreaked his cell and wrote 'FREE BAMBER HE IS INNOCENT' in excrement after his complaint was not upheld ?
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Re: Jeremy's 'dirty protest'. Why ?
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2014, 02:16:AM »
Why do you think Jeremy wreaked his cell and wrote 'FREE BAMBER HE IS INNOCENT' in excrement after his complaint was not upheld ?

Because he was pissed that his complaint was not upheld - kind of obvious Adam.
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2014, 03:04:AM »
I am not surprised a teenage Julie 'fell under his spell'. Women much older and wiser than Julie had fallen for him.

Mike has been campaigning for Jeremy for twenty years after spending just a few hours with him.
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2014, 03:33:AM »
Perhaps the OS can dedicate a chapter on this issue.
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2014, 09:49:AM »
Seems a bit pointless wreaking you're own cell. You are the one that has to live there and probably have to clear up afterwards. Or live in a wreaked cell.

Seems Jeremy has a temper.
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Re: Jeremy's 'dirty protest'. Why ?
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2014, 10:05:AM »
Why do you think Jeremy wreaked his cell and wrote 'FREE BAMBER HE IS INNOCENT' in excrement after his complaint was not upheld ?
I should think if you had spent 20 odd years in gaol you'd be a bit pissied off as well. Oh how easy it is to judge others when they are in a terrible situation ain't it Adam. I suggest you look to the faults in your own life before judging others in their. You're always slinging shit at him. I only wish he could throw some back at you.

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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2014, 10:07:AM »
I am not surprised a teenage Julie 'fell under his spell'. Women much older and wiser than Julie had fallen for him.

Mike has been campaigning for Jeremy for twenty years after spending just a few hours with him.
Don't talk wet. She was as worldly wise as the other girlfriends Jeremy had. Only they couldn't see anything bad to say about him. Guess who I'd believe over her?

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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2014, 10:08:AM »
Seems a bit pointless wreaking you're own cell. You are the one that has to live there and probably have to clear up afterwards. Or live in a wreaked cell.

Seems Jeremy has a temper.
Adam I do often wonder about your naive thoughts?

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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2014, 10:11:AM »
I should think if you had spent 20 odd years in gaol you'd be a bit pissied off as well. Oh how easy it is to judge others when they are in a terrible situation ain't it Adam. I suggest you look to the faults in your own life before judging others in their. You're always slinging shit at him. I only wish he could throw some back at you.

He had been in jail seven years. Not twenty.

He has not got time to respond to my posts. His campaign needs to focus on him, Julie, the police and relatives. Oh and evidence showing his innocence. Unfortunately he said this week he has none, which is a slight problem.

Faults, who me ?
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Re: Jeremy's 'dirty protest'. Why ?
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2014, 10:14:AM »
He had been in jail seven years. Not twenty.

He has not got time to respond to my posts. His campaign needs to focus on him, Julie, the police and relatives. Oh and evidence showing his innocence. Unfortunately he said this week he has none, which is a slight problem.

Faults, who me ?
What do you mean he hasn't got time to respond to your posts?

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Re: Jeremy's 'dirty protest'. Why ?
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2014, 10:16:AM »
Don't talk wet. She was as worldly wise as the other girlfriends Jeremy had. Only they couldn't see anything bad to say about him. Guess who I'd believe over her?

Not sure how Worldly wise you can be as a teenage student living in shared digs. Then again she did meet Jeremy at the exotic Sloppy Joe's.
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Re: Jeremy's 'dirty protest'. Why ?
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2014, 10:17:AM »
Not sure how Worldly wise you can be as a teenage student living in shared digs. Then again she did meet Jeremy at the exotic Sloppy Joe's.
So why haven't his other girlfriends said anything bad about him?