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Countdown to the September 2015 confession:
« on: October 29, 2014, 08:05:AM »
1985:

Jeremy is charged with 5X murder. The best available lawyers are hired, Paul Terezon and David Napley.

The defence lawyers realise it is going to be an extremely difficult case to win. Several psychiatrists and forensic experts are hired. Such as Professor Bernard Knight, David Lincoln and John Hayward. None are able to bolster the defence's case.


1986:

A year after being charged and after a 21 day trial, the jury find Jeremy Bamber guilty.


1986 - 2001:

The 'Campaign for Freedom' begins. More experts and lawyers are brought in. Geoffrey Rivlin continues to assist Jeremy, Mark Webster examines the blood evidence and Professor Leon McDonnell looks at forensic evidence. None are able to assist Jeremy.

A COA application is rejected.

The 'Life means life' law is made. Affecting around 50 prisoners. Jeremy the only one to protest his innocence.

A complaint against Essex police is made. This is dismissed. Jeremy reacts by writing 'FREE BAMBER HE IS INNOCENT' in excrement on prison walls.

Jeremy co operates on Wilkes's book. However his charm was not able to turn it into Pro Jeremy book.


2002:

The COA dismiss an application. Hiring their own expert Dr Ismail who acquires new information. The judges saying 'The more we look at the case, the more we believe the jury were right'.

The relatives said they were dismayed that the CCRC passed the case to the COA.


2003 - 2011:

The emergence of the internet gives the ' Campaign for Freedom' a boost.

Politicians and reporters are contacted.

Wild accusations are made about moving bodies, conversations inside WHF & Neville phoning the police.

Jeremy announces to the press he passed a lie detector test.

Expensive rifle tests are carried out in Arizona and peak time TV programmes dedicate time to the case in the build up to the 2012 CCRC application.


2012:

The CCRC fail to pass Jeremy's application to the COA. Nothing is released on why. Although similar to 2002, the CCRC may have obtained new information from experts highlighting guilt further.

Many people believe this is the end of the road. The 'Campaign for Freedom' remains defiant however Jeremy amazingly turns attention to the 'Life means life' law.


2013:

Jeremy and two other prisoners successfully get the 'Life means Life' order negated. Although Jeremy is unable to benefit as he still protests his innocence.


2014:

Information is acquired about the contents of Paul Harrison's forthcoming book on the case. Harrison receives threatening letters and suspicious contacts from a female Essex publisher.

Harrison says he believes that Jeremy is behind the threats. He also says he has got conclusive proof that will once and fall all show the police got the right man.


August 2015:

Harrison's book is published. The new evidence, if correct looks damning. The Campaign for Freedom' team make no comment.


September 2015:

Jeremy confessors and apologises. He says he is hoping to prove he is reformed and able to live some of his final years outside prison as the 'Life means life' law no longer exists. 



« Last Edit: October 29, 2014, 10:06:AM by Adam »
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Re: Countdown to the September 2015 confession:
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2014, 09:28:AM »
 What a load of cobblers----------------------again ! Clairvoyant now,are you ?

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Re: Countdown to the September 2015 confession:
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2014, 09:43:AM »
Well it is all fact. Apart from September 2015 section.

Harrison's book is due for a August 2015 release.

Advances in criminal investigation technology may have highlighted even more certain guilt. Resulting in the CCRC rejecting the case in 2012.

The CCRC and authorities are not obliged to disclose this information to the public. They already have a conviction. However if Harrison has got hold of this, it will spell the end and a confession.

Someone or some people are obviously not happy with what  Harrison has found out.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2014, 09:47:AM by Adam »
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Re: Countdown to the September 2015 confession:
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2014, 09:57:AM »
Well it is all fact. Apart from September 2015 section.

Harrison's book is due for a August 2015 release.

Advances in criminal investigation technology may have highlighted even more certain guilt. Resulting in the CCRC rejecting the case in 2012.

The CCRC and authorities are not obliged to disclose this information to the public. They already have a conviction. However if Harrison has got hold of this, it will spell the end and a confession.

Someone or some people are obviously not happy with what  Harrison has found out.



He has said that only his publisher and solicitor know the contents. Any feelings one way or the other could be said to be premature.

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Re: Countdown to the September 2015 confession:
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2014, 10:02:AM »
It will be a real wrench if Jeremy has to confess.

But he will if he realises he will look stupid by continuing to protest his innocence. In my view he has already looked stupid, spending so long swimming against the tide for 29 years. A massive tide as well. There are reasons why he does this. Thread already created.

I wonder if Harrison is correct saying he has 'conclusive proof that will once and for all show the police got the right man'.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2014, 10:05:AM by Adam »
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Re: Countdown to the September 2015 confession:
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2014, 10:03:AM »


He has said that only his publisher and solicitor know the contents. Any feelings one way or the other could be said to be premature.

Source please.
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Re: Countdown to the September 2015 confession:
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2014, 10:09:AM »
1985:

Jeremy is charged with 5X murder. The best available lawyers are hired, Paul Terezon and David Napley.

The defence lawyers realise it is going to be an extremely difficult case to win. Several psychiatrists and forensic experts are hired. Such as Professor Bernard Knight, David Lincoln and John Hayward. None are able to bolster the defence's case.


1986:

A year after being charged and after a 21 day trial, the jury find Jeremy Bamber guilty.


1986 - 2001:

The 'Campaign for Freedom' begins. More experts and lawyers are brought in. Geoffrey Rivlin continues to assist Jeremy, Mark Webster examines the blood evidence and Professor Leon McDonnell looks at forensic evidence. None are able to assist Jeremy.

A COA application is rejected.

The 'Life means life' law is made. Affecting around 50 prisoners. Jeremy the only one to protest his innocence.

A complaint against Essex police is made. This is dismissed. Jeremy reacts by writing 'FREE BAMBER HE IS INNOCENT' in excrement on prison walls.

Jeremy co operates on Wilkes's book. However his charm was not able to turn it into Pro Jeremy book.


2002:

The COA dismiss an application. Hiring their own expert Dr Ismail who acquires new information. The judges saying 'The more we look at the case, the more we believe the jury were right'.

The relatives said they were dismayed that the CCRC passed the case to the COA.


2003 - 2011:

The emergence of the internet gives the ' Campaign for Freedom' a boost.

Politicians and reporters are contacted.

Wild accusations are made about moving bodies, conversations inside WHF & Neville phoning the police.

Jeremy announces to the press he passed a lie detector test.

Expensive rifle tests are carried out in Arizona and peak time TV programmes dedicate time to the case in the build up to the 2012 CCRC application.


2012:

The CCRC fail to pass Jeremy's application to the COA. Nothing is released on why. Although similar to 2002, the CCRC may have obtained new information from experts highlighting guilt further.

Many people believe this is the end of the road. The 'Campaign for Freedom' remains defiant however Jeremy amazingly turns attention to the 'Life means life' law.


2013:

Jeremy and two other prisoners successfully get the 'Life means Life' order negated. Although Jeremy is unable to benefit as he still protests his innocence.


2014:

Information is acquired about the contents of Paul Harrison's forthcoming book on the case. Harrison receives threatening letters and suspicious contacts from a female Essex publisher.

Harrison says he believes that Jeremy is behind the threats. He also says he has got conclusive proof that will once and fall all show the police got the right man.


August 2015:

Harrison's book is published. The new evidence, if correct looks damning. The Campaign for Freedom' team make no comment.


September 2015:

Jeremy confessors and apologises. He says he is hoping to prove he is reformed and able to live some of his final years outside prison as the 'Life means life' law no longer exists.
How does Harrison's book look "damning"? Hahahah, just because he said it would prove once and for all that Bamber is guilty? Are you so short sighted that you can't even see a sales pitch when you see it?

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Re: Countdown to the September 2015 confession:
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2014, 10:10:AM »
Well it is all fact. Apart from September 2015 section.

Harrison's book is due for a August 2015 release.

Advances in criminal investigation technology may have highlighted even more certain guilt. Resulting in the CCRC rejecting the case in 2012.

The CCRC and authorities are not obliged to disclose this information to the public. They already have a conviction. However if Harrison has got hold of this, it will spell the end and a confession.

Someone or some people are obviously not happy with what  Harrison has found out.






Harrison hasn't found out any more than we didn't already know,unless he's privy to files/documents which are in the hands of Jeremy and his solicitors,which aren't likely to be leaked,even to an ex-cop,particularly to an ex-cop !
I wouldn't mind betting that he's been in hot water for having gleaned information for his book,that if some reached the public domain-----------then goodnight Vienna.
Believe me,if I had the money,I'd pay for a whistle-blower to get to the bottom of all this,it's nothing short of scandalous. To pin a crime on someone who clearly didn't do it !!

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Re: Countdown to the September 2015 confession:
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2014, 10:11:AM »
Source please.



You seem to have missed the pm's which have been floating around. Perhaps it was during your absence.

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Re: Countdown to the September 2015 confession:
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2014, 10:13:AM »
How does Harrison's book look "damning"? Hahahah, just because he said it would prove once and for all that Bamber is guilty? Are you so short sighted that you can't even see a sales pitch when you see it?

If it not damning why has Jeremy or supporter/s threatened him.

More importantly, do you think there will be a September 2015 confession ?
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Re: Countdown to the September 2015 confession:
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2014, 10:15:AM »
It will be a real wrench if Jeremy has to confess.

But he will if he realises he will look stupid by continuing to protest his innocence. In my view he has already looked stupid, spending so long swimming against the tide for 29 years. A massive tide as well. There are reasons why he does this. Thread already created.

I wonder if Harrison is correct saying he has 'conclusive proof that will once and for all show the police got the right man'.
Then he would know nothing more than you who says there is already conclusive proof that he is guilty. What else is there left to say that would surprise you?

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Re: Countdown to the September 2015 confession:
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2014, 10:19:AM »
If it not damning why has Jeremy or supporter/s threatened him.

More importantly, do you think there will be a September 2015 confession ?






It's NOT the supporters who've threatened. It's made to look that way by the nasty-minded person/s who are so adamant that he's guilty that it would appear that they,themselves have suffered a psychotic episode.!

25 years would have been the finale for a confession as that was the original prison term meted out.
Confessions happen within 10 years of imprisonment.

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Re: Countdown to the September 2015 confession:
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2014, 10:19:AM »





Harrison hasn't found out any more than we didn't already know,unless he's privy to files/documents which are in the hands of Jeremy and his solicitors,which aren't likely to be leaked,even to an ex-cop,particularly to an ex-cop !
I wouldn't mind betting that he's been in hot water for having gleaned information for his book,that if some reached the public domain-----------then goodnight Vienna.
Believe me,if I had the money,I'd pay for a whistle-blower to get to the bottom of all this,it's nothing short of scandalous. To pin a crime on someone who clearly didn't do it !!

Harrison would have done what the 2002 appeal judges did. Get other experts opinions and fresh evidence. He may have also got information from people that Jeremy used but has kept quiet about. Such as professor Bernard Knight,  although there may have been dozens of others who have given team Bamber horrible feedback.

The CCRC may have obtained new conclusive proof. That the public do not know about. Resulting in their 2012 rejection. Harrison may also have got this information.

If he has no new information, there is no point releasing a book.
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Re: Countdown to the September 2015 confession:
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2014, 10:24:AM »


You seem to have missed the pm's which have been floating around. Perhaps it was during your absence.

So no source. But you mentioned my ban again.
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Re: Countdown to the September 2015 confession:
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2014, 10:26:AM »
Harrison would have done what the 2002 appeal judges did. Get other experts opinions and fresh evidence. He may have also got information from people that Jeremy used but has kept quiet about. Such as professor Bernard Knight,  although there may have been dozens of others.

The CCRC may have obtained new conclusive proof. That the public do not know about. Resulting in their 2012 rejection. Harrison may also have this.

If he has no new information, there is no point releasing a book.






Any proof now which comes to light will be in Jeremys' favour,or why do you think if it wasn't,that it didn't appear at the trial ? Think about it.

If the book is anything to go by as to why Woffinden changed his mind,then it's pathetic. Woffindens' mind was changed on account of the telephone being " hidden " under magazines ! FGS,could not Sheila also have done that ?? That was a lame excuse if ever there was one.