Was nightdress replaced back to front on Sheila, after being moved on floor?

[mike tesko]

Photographs I have seen of Sheila on the bed do not include the triangular bloodstain on the top right of the nightdress visible in alternative photographs taken by police once they had moved her body onto the bedroom floor...

[scipio_usmc]

More fairytales...

[Jane]

Can't for the life of me imagine why they'd have needed to remove it. IF what you're suggesting is true, and there ARE two different pictures, they'd have had to remove the nightdress twice.

[scipio_usmc]

Can't for the life of me imagine why they'd have needed to remove it. IF what you're suggesting is true, and there ARE two different pictures, they'd have had to remove the nightdress twice.

He on one hand says police moved her body right away from the bed to the floor.  It is bad enough he can't come up with a motive for police to do so.  But if they decided they were going to do that why would they take a photo before they moved her?  They wouldn't and he claims she wa smoved by the time the police photographer started taking photos.  It is all a fairytale. 

[Jane]

He on one hand says police moved her body right away from the bed to the floor.  It is bad enough he can't come up with a motive for police to do so.  But if they decided they were going to do that why would they take a photo before they moved her?  They wouldn't and he claims she wa smoved by the time the police photographer started taking photos.  It is all a fairytale.

Not HE, Scipio. OTHERS say things which he, in turn, passes on to us :D

[Mr. Gee]

He on one hand says police moved her body right away from the bed to the floor.  It is bad enough he can't come up with a motive for police to do so.  But if they decided they were going to do that why would they take a photo before they moved her?  They wouldn't and he claims she wa smoved by the time the police photographer started taking photos.  It is all a fairytale.

Probably the only reason to move a body from a bed to the floor would be if the person was still alive and in need of CPR? If a person was still alive there would not be time or even the inclination to take pictures at that particular time.

[lookout]

Probably the only reason to move a body from a bed to the floor would be if the person was still alive and in need of CPR? If a person was still alive there would not be time or even the inclination to take pictures at that particular time.

This is what I think.That the noises which were heard was very likely Sheila coughing/clearing her throat,as some poor souls do before they die,and the police have thought that she was alive so lifted her onto the floor in order to perform CPR. They wouldn't have got as far as CPR,as any noise would have been the last reflex that Sheila would have managed before dying.

[Mr. Gee]

This is what I think.That the noises which were heard was very likely Sheila coughing/clearing her throat,as some poor souls do before they die,and the police have thought that she was alive so lifted her onto the floor in order to perform CPR. They wouldn't have got as far as CPR,as any noise would have been the last reflex that Sheila would have managed before dying.

CPR would explain the blood being exhaled out of her mouth and nose.

[Alias]

CPR would explain the blood being exhaled out of her mouth and nose.

Wouldn´t there be more blood if CPR had been performed?

[Mr. Gee]

Wouldn´t there be more blood if CPR had been performed?

Sheila was absolutely soaked in blood Alias.

[mike tesko]

Wouldn´t there be more blood if CPR had been performed?

From both sides of her mouth, and nostrils, yes...

This blood is missing in the photograph(s) taken of Sheila on the bed, and must have been produced after police moved her body to the bedroom floor after the second shot which killed her had been fired under the chin - at that time blood would have filled the cavity of her mouth as a result of her still being alive, with the fatal round penetrating through her neck under the chin and up through the cavity of her mouth and into her brain. Once CPR was adopted this blood started to come out of her mouth and nostrils, as well as the fatal wound under the chin, which is why there are bloodied fingermarks around the fatal wound site beneath the chin, because whilst CPR was being processed an attempt was being made to prevent blood running and leaking from it...

[mike tesko]

On the reverse of Sheila's nightdress at the lab' there is a huge bloodstain which did not get replicated upon the sheepskin rug that her body ended up being laid upon when the official photographs were taken. We have been told that all there was on the carpet beneath where Sheila's body was resting, were a few small bloodspots that originated from June Bamber. Now, what I would like to know the answer to, and the question I would pose for someone to answer, is:-

How could none of the huge bloodstain on the reverse of Sheila's nightdress not get transferred onto the carpet / rug beneath where police photographed her body on the bedroom floor next to the edge of the bed, if Sheila had been shot with her body  there, in that position twice, as alleged by the prosecutions case?

Impossible, is the only answer, that anyone can honestly give to such a question...

It should be obvious by now, that the blood on the rear of Sheila's nightdress got there from a different location in the farmhouse, or as the case may be, from the bed where her body had been and was laying before police moved her body from the bed to the bedroom floor, and gave her CPR...

Alternatively, the blood on the reverse of her nightdress, got there whilst her body had been laid downstairs on the kitchen floor...

[mike tesko]

Police got rid of the Sheep skin rug, and a large piece of bedroom carpet from the vicinity where Sheila's body ended up eventually being laid...

By that stage, the blood on the reverse of her nightdress had already dried, which was why it did not get transferred onto the Sheepskin rug later on. Any presence of June Bambers blood on the rug or the carpet upon which Sheila was placed by the police, got there through contamination as a result of Sheila being laid on the bed which had Junes blood dripped and splashed all over it. This caused Junes blood to be transferred on the reverse of Sheila's nightdress, from the bed to the carpet / rug upon which Sheila's body had been placed by police, and fully explains why the huge bloodstain on the reverse of Sheila's nightdress never got replicated there, by the same process of transferred contamination - because by the time police moved her body the huge bloodstain on the reverse of her nightdress had long since dried before the police moved her body from one place to another...

[Mr. Gee]

Police got rid of the Sheep skin rug, and a large piece of bedroom carpet from the vicinity where Sheila's body ended up eventually being laid...

By that stage, the blood on the reverse of her nightdress had already dried, which was why it did not get transferred onto the Sheepskin rug later on. Any presence of June Bambers blood on the rug or the carpet upon which Sheila was placed by the police, got there through contamination as a result of Sheila being laid on the bed which had Junes blood dripped and splashed all over it. This caused Junes blood to be transferred on the reverse of Sheila's nightdress, from the bed to the carpet / rug upon which Sheila's body had been placed by police, and fully explains why the huge bloodstain on the reverse of Sheila's nightdress never got replicated there, by the same process of transferred contamination - because by the time police moved her body the huge bloodstain on the reverse of her nightdress had long since dried before the police moved her body from one place to another...

In one of the pictures Mike Sheila is lying on the floot and there is a massive bloodstain on the bed cover. In the other picture where we notice her hand has been moved (allegedly to photograph the blood under her hand) the blood is missing from the bed.
I wonder if the reason there was no blood on the bed in yet another picture was because the police removed the bed cover?

[lookout]

Wouldn´t there be more blood if CPR had been performed?

Apologies for what I'm about to say.
 It's not unusual for a person nearing death,to clear their throat,regardless of the circumstances,and in Sheilas' case,this is what the officers will have heard---------thinking that Sheila was choking,so their natural/normal reaction would have been to have put her on a flat,solid surface to perform CPR.
Sadly,it would have been too late anyway,but the woman will still have been warm at that point,as death was instantaneous.