The reason the police framed Jeremy ?

[Mr. Gee]

What could I have to be scared of?

I merely state fact, lookign at the evidence raitonally there is only one conclusion- Jeremy is guilty as sin.

You and others are scared of the truth for some reaosn and keep ignoring the evidence and making up wild tales of misconduct to try to say that the evidence should be ignored because of some other alleged misconduct that has nothing to do with the evidence that matters.

Your own failure and the danger that you'll be proved wrong.

[scipio_usmc]

Your own failure and the danger that you'll be proved wrong.

There is no dange rof me being proven worng here. In any event when wrong I admit it because I have nothing invested in this case beond the truth.  In contrast Jeremy supporters liek yourself don';t care about the evidence and follwoing it wher eit leads but rather want Jeremy to be innocent no matter what and ignore any evidence that proves his guilt to avoid facing that reality.

I challenge people to prove hme wrong all the time and to explain the basis of their positions the fact is you can;t while I can not only explain the basis fo rmy positions but post evidence to support same that despite daring people to rebut you can't.

 

[Mr. Gee]

There is no dange rof me being proven worng here. In any event when wrong I admit it because I have nothing invested in this case beond the truth.  In contrast Jeremy supporters liek yourself don';t care about the evidence and follwoing it wher eit leads but rather want Jeremy to be innocent no matter what and ignore any evidence that proves his guilt to avoid facing that reality.

I challenge people to prove hme wrong all the time and to explain the basis of their positions the fact is you can;t while I can not only explain the basis fo rmy positions but post evidence to support same that despite daring people to rebut you can't.

I have never ever seen you admit to being proved wrong. That would be a blow to your oversized ego.

[scipio_usmc]

I have never ever seen you admit to being proved wrong. That would be a blow to your oversized ego.

I have admitted those errors I made.  A big one was accepting the baloney about there being proof a call was made from WHF to Goldhanger.  I won't be that naive again though.

[Caroline]

I have admitted those errors I made.  A big one was accepting the baloney about there being proof a call was made from WHF to Goldhanger.  I won't be that naive again though.

Yes, you did admit that.

[lookout]

I have admitted those errors I made.  A big one was accepting the baloney about there being proof a call was made from WHF to Goldhanger.  I won't be that naive again though.

In view of all the " negative " posts you've made,do you by any chance agree that certain non-disclosures of files/documents to the defence has been a travesty of justice ?

[lookout]

Bribery and Corruption won this case !!

[lookout]

I sincerely hope that there are at least one or two members of the jury from that time,take a look on this forum and see that a DEAL WAS made BEFORE the trial that JM received a large payment from the News of the World, in exchange as the MAIN prosecution witness !!
Pity the jury hadn't known about this prior to Jeremys' conviction. Things just might have been a lot different.

[Mr. Gee]

I have admitted those errors I made.  A big one was accepting the baloney about there being proof a call was made from WHF to Goldhanger.  I won't be that naive again though.

If you remember scipio it was you who introduced that baloney when you stated that there was only one call made from WHF that night and you cited a telephone engineer to prove your point. But I didn't accept it from the starts and so checked up on it finding that your claim (acknowledging the fact that you were..ahem  misled) was indeed false. I wish that your claim was true, because it would have backed up Jeremy's claim. But you were of course wrong, but didn't admit it saying rather that you were misled instead. Who says I got a bad memory?

[Mr. Gee]

I have admitted those errors I made.  A big one was accepting the baloney about there being proof a call was made from WHF to Goldhanger.  I won't be that naive again though.

Really? I rather think you are a very bad judge of character in that you have chosen to believe the wrong people in my opinion? How naïve is that?

[scipio_usmc]

In view of all the " negative " posts you've made,do you by any chance agree that certain non-disclosures of files/documents to the defence has been a travesty of justice ?

No one has established any non-disclosures that were required by law let alone that were exculpatory. 

For there to be a proven travesty the government had to withhold exculpatory evidence that would have cleared someone sooner had it been released.

The notebooks and statements of all invovled have been released to the defense as well as the significant documents comprising the records and there is nothing in any of it to clear Jeremy.

[Jan]

How would you know this is fact?


The notebooks and statements of all invovled have been released to the defense as well as the significant documents comprising the records and there is nothing in any of it to clear Jeremy.



So you know 100% that there are no documents or photos in the boxes held under PII that have not already been seen by JB defence ?

Explain how you have the knowledge to make that statement?

[scipio_usmc]

How would you know this is fact?


The notebooks and statements of all invovled have been released to the defense as well as the significant documents comprising the records and there is nothing in any of it to clear Jeremy.



So you know 100% that there are no documents or photos in the boxes held under PII that have not already been seen by JB defence ?

Explain how you have the knowledge to make that statement?

The negatives were all turned over according to NGB.  The notion photos could clea rhim is absurd anyway. 

There is nothign at all to suggest anything exculatory was improperly withheld from the defense and indeed the nature of the evidence that convicted him leaves little ways for there ot be evidence oout there that could help him.

There is not going to be a document that reveals the lab planted blood. And short of something outrageous like that among other things Jeremy's innocence is impossible.

Those who doubt his guilt largely attack police in generla and have various biases that prevent them fromrationally looking at the case and evidence objectively and largely attack the police in generla and use this more as a vehicle for their own aspirations than actually caring about the facts of the case.