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Quote from: jon on April 13, 2011, 03:52:PMQuote from: Hartley on April 13, 2011, 03:41:PMQuote from: jon on April 13, 2011, 03:35:PMYes i grant you there are many case's of killing parent's for financial gain , but killing children and at the same time your sister is PS , you have to concede Hartley what are the chance's of that ?Well for those who think that JB is guilty, they would say the chances are pretty high; for those who think he's innocent then perhaps not.To be honest I think that I could put forward a fairly compelling argument both for and against; some may see Sheila's illness as the cause, others may see it as an opportunity. Are you aware of this ever happening anywhere else before in any country of the world ?=1 for this, Harters
Quote from: Hartley on April 13, 2011, 03:41:PMQuote from: jon on April 13, 2011, 03:35:PMYes i grant you there are many case's of killing parent's for financial gain , but killing children and at the same time your sister is PS , you have to concede Hartley what are the chance's of that ?Well for those who think that JB is guilty, they would say the chances are pretty high; for those who think he's innocent then perhaps not.To be honest I think that I could put forward a fairly compelling argument both for and against; some may see Sheila's illness as the cause, others may see it as an opportunity. Are you aware of this ever happening anywhere else before in any country of the world ?
Quote from: jon on April 13, 2011, 03:35:PMYes i grant you there are many case's of killing parent's for financial gain , but killing children and at the same time your sister is PS , you have to concede Hartley what are the chance's of that ?Well for those who think that JB is guilty, they would say the chances are pretty high; for those who think he's innocent then perhaps not.To be honest I think that I could put forward a fairly compelling argument both for and against; some may see Sheila's illness as the cause, others may see it as an opportunity.
Yes i grant you there are many case's of killing parent's for financial gain , but killing children and at the same time your sister is PS , you have to concede Hartley what are the chance's of that ?
Quote from: chochokeira on April 13, 2011, 05:09:PMQuote from: jon on April 13, 2011, 03:52:PMQuote from: Hartley on April 13, 2011, 03:41:PMQuote from: jon on April 13, 2011, 03:35:PMYes i grant you there are many case's of killing parent's for financial gain , but killing children and at the same time your sister is PS , you have to concede Hartley what are the chance's of that ?Well for those who think that JB is guilty, they would say the chances are pretty high; for those who think he's innocent then perhaps not.To be honest I think that I could put forward a fairly compelling argument both for and against; some may see Sheila's illness as the cause, others may see it as an opportunity. Are you aware of this ever happening anywhere else before in any country of the world ?=1 for this, Harters Now I've gotta go find some smites. Have a +1 back
Quote from: Hartley on April 13, 2011, 05:20:PMQuote from: chochokeira on April 13, 2011, 05:09:PMQuote from: jon on April 13, 2011, 03:52:PMQuote from: Hartley on April 13, 2011, 03:41:PMQuote from: jon on April 13, 2011, 03:35:PMYes i grant you there are many case's of killing parent's for financial gain , but killing children and at the same time your sister is PS , you have to concede Hartley what are the chance's of that ?Well for those who think that JB is guilty, they would say the chances are pretty high; for those who think he's innocent then perhaps not.To be honest I think that I could put forward a fairly compelling argument both for and against; some may see Sheila's illness as the cause, others may see it as an opportunity. Are you aware of this ever happening anywhere else before in any country of the world ?=1 for this, Harters Now I've gotta go find some smites. Have a +1 back Oh, thank you! You're in as bad a way as I am regarding the smites. It's because we're both post controversial comments, I imagine. On my more paranoid days I imagine that just one person is hounding me with these wretched smites, on my better days I suspect almost everyone, even you Harters
Hmmm. I've had another couple of visits from the smite fairy, lately. I pretend that it doesn't hurt......!!
Quote from: shonapugs on April 13, 2011, 05:35:PMHmmm. I've had another couple of visits from the smite fairy, lately. I pretend that it doesn't hurt......!!I think its only a worry when you have more smites than applauds!
Quote from: joolz1975 on April 13, 2011, 05:36:PMQuote from: shonapugs on April 13, 2011, 05:35:PMHmmm. I've had another couple of visits from the smite fairy, lately. I pretend that it doesn't hurt......!!I think its only a worry when you have more smites than applauds! Yeah thanks
Quote from: simong on April 13, 2011, 05:12:PMBack to our good friend Shawn Bentler http://www.woi-tv.com/Global/story.asp?s=6482141 I personally don't see the point in debating and comparing past murders, however this is uncannily like the Bamber case isn't it?Smart arse.So we've got one that has a surname starting with Ba, now Be, bet you can't find one starting Bi.
Back to our good friend Shawn Bentler http://www.woi-tv.com/Global/story.asp?s=6482141 I personally don't see the point in debating and comparing past murders, however this is uncannily like the Bamber case isn't it?
Quote from: joolz1975 on April 13, 2011, 04:31:PMQuote from: jon on April 13, 2011, 04:27:PMQuote from: Hartley on April 13, 2011, 04:16:PMQuote from: jon on April 13, 2011, 03:52:PMQuote from: Hartley on April 13, 2011, 03:41:PMQuote from: jon on April 13, 2011, 03:35:PMYes i grant you there are many case's of killing parent's for financial gain , but killing children and at the same time your sister is PS , you have to concede Hartley what are the chance's of that ?Well for those who think that JB is guilty, they would say the chances are pretty high; for those who think he's innocent then perhaps not.To be honest I think that I could put forward a fairly compelling argument both for and against; some may see Sheila's illness as the cause, others may see it as an opportunity. Are you aware of this ever happening anywhere else before in any country of the world ?How do you mean, somebody murdering their entire family? Well yes, there are several incidents of such nature.I don't quite follow you.You are aware of similar crimes taking place without there being somebody who suffers from schizophrenia involved. Yet you argue that by adding in an additional variable, of a person suffering from schizophrenia, then it would indicate that the murders could not have taken place unless carried out by the schizophrenia sufferer?I'm more than happy to entertain the idea that Sheila could have been responsible, but I can't entertain the idea that because of Sheila's illness then it must have been her.Put them both together my point is , how unlikely is it that JB is the killer and at the same time his sister is PS , man kill's five for financial gain and at the same time his sister is Paranoid Schizophrenic , are you aware of this happening before or is this the only time it as happened ?Does it matter whether its the only time its happened?? even if it is it doesnt mean anything!The police go to court everyday saying a DNA match is so many million to one chance , would you care to put a figure on this ? A man kill's his family for financial gain including two innocent children , his sister is PS , he is stupid enough to tell his girlfriend all before during and after the evil deed , then he pass's lie detector test , then add to that all the other argument's in the case DNA , silencer etc
Quote from: jon on April 13, 2011, 04:27:PMQuote from: Hartley on April 13, 2011, 04:16:PMQuote from: jon on April 13, 2011, 03:52:PMQuote from: Hartley on April 13, 2011, 03:41:PMQuote from: jon on April 13, 2011, 03:35:PMYes i grant you there are many case's of killing parent's for financial gain , but killing children and at the same time your sister is PS , you have to concede Hartley what are the chance's of that ?Well for those who think that JB is guilty, they would say the chances are pretty high; for those who think he's innocent then perhaps not.To be honest I think that I could put forward a fairly compelling argument both for and against; some may see Sheila's illness as the cause, others may see it as an opportunity. Are you aware of this ever happening anywhere else before in any country of the world ?How do you mean, somebody murdering their entire family? Well yes, there are several incidents of such nature.I don't quite follow you.You are aware of similar crimes taking place without there being somebody who suffers from schizophrenia involved. Yet you argue that by adding in an additional variable, of a person suffering from schizophrenia, then it would indicate that the murders could not have taken place unless carried out by the schizophrenia sufferer?I'm more than happy to entertain the idea that Sheila could have been responsible, but I can't entertain the idea that because of Sheila's illness then it must have been her.Put them both together my point is , how unlikely is it that JB is the killer and at the same time his sister is PS , man kill's five for financial gain and at the same time his sister is Paranoid Schizophrenic , are you aware of this happening before or is this the only time it as happened ?Does it matter whether its the only time its happened?? even if it is it doesnt mean anything!
Quote from: Hartley on April 13, 2011, 04:16:PMQuote from: jon on April 13, 2011, 03:52:PMQuote from: Hartley on April 13, 2011, 03:41:PMQuote from: jon on April 13, 2011, 03:35:PMYes i grant you there are many case's of killing parent's for financial gain , but killing children and at the same time your sister is PS , you have to concede Hartley what are the chance's of that ?Well for those who think that JB is guilty, they would say the chances are pretty high; for those who think he's innocent then perhaps not.To be honest I think that I could put forward a fairly compelling argument both for and against; some may see Sheila's illness as the cause, others may see it as an opportunity. Are you aware of this ever happening anywhere else before in any country of the world ?How do you mean, somebody murdering their entire family? Well yes, there are several incidents of such nature.I don't quite follow you.You are aware of similar crimes taking place without there being somebody who suffers from schizophrenia involved. Yet you argue that by adding in an additional variable, of a person suffering from schizophrenia, then it would indicate that the murders could not have taken place unless carried out by the schizophrenia sufferer?I'm more than happy to entertain the idea that Sheila could have been responsible, but I can't entertain the idea that because of Sheila's illness then it must have been her.Put them both together my point is , how unlikely is it that JB is the killer and at the same time his sister is PS , man kill's five for financial gain and at the same time his sister is Paranoid Schizophrenic , are you aware of this happening before or is this the only time it as happened ?
Quote from: jon on April 13, 2011, 03:52:PMQuote from: Hartley on April 13, 2011, 03:41:PMQuote from: jon on April 13, 2011, 03:35:PMYes i grant you there are many case's of killing parent's for financial gain , but killing children and at the same time your sister is PS , you have to concede Hartley what are the chance's of that ?Well for those who think that JB is guilty, they would say the chances are pretty high; for those who think he's innocent then perhaps not.To be honest I think that I could put forward a fairly compelling argument both for and against; some may see Sheila's illness as the cause, others may see it as an opportunity. Are you aware of this ever happening anywhere else before in any country of the world ?How do you mean, somebody murdering their entire family? Well yes, there are several incidents of such nature.I don't quite follow you.You are aware of similar crimes taking place without there being somebody who suffers from schizophrenia involved. Yet you argue that by adding in an additional variable, of a person suffering from schizophrenia, then it would indicate that the murders could not have taken place unless carried out by the schizophrenia sufferer?I'm more than happy to entertain the idea that Sheila could have been responsible, but I can't entertain the idea that because of Sheila's illness then it must have been her.
Quote from: shonapugs on April 13, 2011, 05:35:PMHmmm. I've had another couple of visits from the smite fairy, lately. I pretend that it doesn't hurt......!!I feel really guilty now. One was off me. Thought i was paying you back. Smite paranoia got the better of me
Quote from: Rochford Shields on April 13, 2011, 06:52:PMQuote from: shonapugs on April 13, 2011, 05:35:PMHmmm. I've had another couple of visits from the smite fairy, lately. I pretend that it doesn't hurt......!!I feel really guilty now. One was off me. Thought i was paying you back. Smite paranoia got the better of me Have a +1 for being honest.
