Undisputed facts

[mike tesko]

There are clearly two types of blood visible in this image, blood that is dried, and blood which is wet and fresh looking - in my opinion, blood from the first wound and blood from the second wound

The blood from her mouth looks dry, and Dr Craig said it was dried. The blood on her throat looks wettish, but it's from the same shot as the blood from her mouth. It makes no sense that some blood from one shot would be dry and some would still be wet.

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Yes, have you contemplated why some of the blood appears to be wet, whilst other blood appears to be dried?

It's linked to the movement of the body by the police from the bed to the floor, and whilst on the floor, as  result of rolling her body about from its side onto the supine position...

The police moved the body, and what you see in the photograph in so far as the blood is concerned, is evidence of that movement and disturbance by the police...

Simple...

It could also be because of flash photography giving a false impression.

You said a while back that the blood from her mouth was fresh and that it was held in her mouth until she was moved, and now you don't appear to think that.

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It could have been held in her mouth, and leaked out when they moved her body from the bed to the floor, and subsequently dried, before she was moved again by rolling her body over into the supine position, at which stage the plugs of clotted blood on the two entry wounds became detached and blood that was trapped in the tracks made by the bullets, started to leak out on a different occasion...

So, I do not think I am saying anything different to what I have already said, only that you have invited me to explain these apparent anomalies, and I have given this response...

If for whatever reason you are not happy with my reply, you may make a different point, and I may answer it in a different way...

If I do, it does not mean I have changed my mind about something, or anything...

[mike tesko]

Yes as I said, the lower areas would be discolored.
You cant see the lower areas in any of the photographs.

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You can't see any of the purplish patches anywhere on Sheila's body...

Why do you think that is?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallor_mortis

allor mortis (Latin for paleness of death) is a postmortem paleness which happens in those with light skin almost instantly (in the 15–120 minutes after the death) because of a lack of capillary circulation throughout the body. The blood sinks down into the lower parts (according to gravity) of the body creating the livor mortis.

[Hartley]

Yes, she looks pale.

[Kaldin]

Yes as I said, the lower areas would be discolored.
You cant see the lower areas in any of the photographs.

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You can't see any of the purplish patches anywhere on Sheila's body...

Why do you think that is?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallor_mortis

allor mortis (Latin for paleness of death) is a postmortem paleness which happens in those with light skin almost instantly (in the 15–120 minutes after the death) because of a lack of capillary circulation throughout the body. The blood sinks down into the lower parts (according to gravity) of the body creating the livor mortis.

I've only really seen her body from above, and the photos of her legs were quite blurred. Livor mortis would not be visible on such photos.

[mike tesko]

You can see that the fingers and shape of SC'as left hand appears to have been holding something, like the barrel of a gun - but her fingerprints were not found on the end of the guns barrel that was photographed upon her body - does anybody have any idea why?

[mike tesko]

Yes, she looks pale.

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This is how DS "Stan" Jones, described Sheila's body when he first saw it in the bedroom on the morning of 7th August 1985...

[Hartley]

Well perhaps because she was placed in that position by her killer to give the impression that she committed suicide?

[mike tesko]

Well perhaps because she was placed in that position by her killer to give the impression that she committed suicide?

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The only people who moved Sheila's body were the police...

[Kaldin]

Well perhaps because she was placed in that position by her killer to give the impression that she committed suicide?

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The only people who moved Sheila's body were the police...

So says you.

[mike tesko]

Well perhaps because she was placed in that position by her killer to give the impression that she committed suicide?

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The only people who moved Sheila's body were the police...

So says you.

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So says the evidence...

[Kaldin]

Well perhaps because she was placed in that position by her killer to give the impression that she committed suicide?

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The only people who moved Sheila's body were the police...

So says you.

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So says the evidence...

There is no evidence - it's just your opinion. The only evidence is that the police moved her hand and the gun slightly, and we've known about that for ages.

[mike tesko]

Well perhaps because she was placed in that position by her killer to give the impression that she committed suicide?

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The only people who moved Sheila's body were the police...

So says you.

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So says the evidence...

There is no evidence - it's just your opinion. The only evidence is that the police moved her hand and the gun slightly, and we've known about that for ages.

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There is no evidence that the police did not move Sheila's body, it is only your opinion, and speculation...

[Kaldin]

Well perhaps because she was placed in that position by her killer to give the impression that she committed suicide?

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The only people who moved Sheila's body were the police...

So says you.

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So says the evidence...

There is no evidence - it's just your opinion. The only evidence is that the police moved her hand and the gun slightly, and we've known about that for ages.

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There is no evidence that the police did not move Sheila's body, it is only your opinion, and speculation...

Well that's just silly. You can't prove a negative, and anyway the police don't have to produce evidence that they didn't move the body because it's just an accusation with no basis to it.

[Paul]

How to choose the perfect thread title 

[mike tesko]

Well perhaps because she was placed in that position by her killer to give the impression that she committed suicide?

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The only people who moved Sheila's body were the police...

So says you.

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So says the evidence...

There is no evidence - it's just your opinion. The only evidence is that the police moved her hand and the gun slightly, and we've known about that for ages.

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There is no evidence that the police did not move Sheila's body, it is only your opinion, and speculation...

Well that's just silly. You can't prove a negative, and anyway the police don't have to produce evidence that they didn't move the body because it's just an accusation with no basis to it.

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Stop being stupid - if thats the best you can do by keep saying there is no evidence and its speculation, theres not much hope for you...