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Re: Jeremy's court testimony:
« Reply #45 on: October 07, 2014, 06:58:AM »
How come you think Pc West made mistakes, but Jeremy told lies? Why can't Jeremy have simply made some mistakes when he was incorrect?

Jeremy can't have accidentally told police that he taught sSHeila to fire the murder wepaon and that she fired all wepaons in th ehouse, he clearly lied intentionally.

Jeremy can't have accidentally told police he got the gun out to shoot rabbits and left it and the bullets out when in fact she staged the bullets afterwards and made thw whole story up.

Jeremy can't have made a mistake in claiming Nevill called him, he knew it didn't happen.

Jeremy didn't make a mistake claiming he called police immediately after being unable to get through to Nevill he knew he never tried to reach Nevill and that he called Julie before calling police an dran out the door as soon as he was done with the police.  He claimed he called police first because he knew how bad it would look to have called Julie first and figured police would never figure out the truth..

I cna continue but it is all the same, he said things he knew were untrue and said them on purpose to conceal the truth.  There are no possible ways for him to have just erred by accident on these matters.

 
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Re: Jeremy's court testimony:
« Reply #46 on: October 07, 2014, 07:38:AM »
Those are your mistakes, not Jeremy's.

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« Reply #47 on: October 07, 2014, 07:41:AM »
Those are your mistakes, not Jeremy's.

No they are lies Jeremy told which you refuse to face because you are so biased you are busy routinely lying for him yourself including making up that he said he called Julie after calling Witham but before calling Chelmsford. 
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Re: Jeremy's court testimony:
« Reply #48 on: October 07, 2014, 08:10:AM »
Have you got a source that Julie wanted to to go on a jolly up with her friend ?

She was being whisked everywhere by Jeremy. So not really desperate for another jolly up.


It's in her witness statement but you obviously couldn't be bothered to read them
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Re: Jeremy's court testimony:
« Reply #49 on: October 07, 2014, 08:18:AM »
No they are lies Jeremy told
You have no confidence in that or you would be able to suggest what exactly Pc West told Bonnett. However, you never have, giving feeble excuses for failing to do so.

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Re: Jeremy's court testimony:
« Reply #50 on: October 07, 2014, 08:37:AM »
You have no confidence in that or you would be able to suggest what exactly Pc West told Bonnett. However, you never have, giving feeble excuses for failing to do so.

I have no need to.  I already proved your claims to be lies and you to be thoroughly dishonest and to be making claims tha thave no merit at all.

You did most of the work for me especially when you started ignoring Jeremy's claims that he called police before Julie which he maintains to this day and making up out of no where that he called Julie after he phoned Witham but before he called Chelsford just to try to pretend he was telling the truth about calling police before calling her though you well know he was referring to calling West before Julie. He considered calling Witham inconsequential since he did not get through to anyone so didn't bother to write about it in his witness statement he only mentioned such verbally.

You have lied from start to finish to try to pretend Nevill phoned and to change the times of everything to fit a call from Nevill in.  You demolished your crediiblity in the process.


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Re: Jeremy's court testimony:
« Reply #51 on: October 07, 2014, 08:58:AM »
You have no confidence in that or you would be able to suggest what exactly Pc West told Bonnett. However, you never have, giving feeble excuses for failing to do so.



I believe you started this debate re phone calls some three weeks ago. I really don't believe it to be any further forward, or your belief to be any more credible now, than it was then.

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Re: Jeremy's court testimony:
« Reply #52 on: October 07, 2014, 09:31:AM »
Jeremy can't have accidentally told police that he taught sSHeila to fire the murder wepaon and that she fired all wepaons in th ehouse, he clearly lied intentionally.

Jeremy can't have accidentally told police he got the gun out to shoot rabbits and left it and the bullets out when in fact she staged the bullets afterwards and made thw whole story up.

Jeremy can't have made a mistake in claiming Nevill called him, he knew it didn't happen.

Jeremy didn't make a mistake claiming he called police immediately after being unable to get through to Nevill he knew he never tried to reach Nevill and that he called Julie before calling police an dran out the door as soon as he was done with the police.  He claimed he called police first because he knew how bad it would look to have called Julie first and figured police would never figure out the truth..

I cna continue but it is all the same, he said things he knew were untrue and said them on purpose to conceal the truth.  There are no possible ways for him to have just erred by accident on these matters.

 
Maybe she did know how to fire all the weapons in the house? There were only 3 types of weapons. There's no proof that she did of course, but I would like to rummage through the family photos. Remember it took DB long enough to remember reluctantly Sheila going to Scotland on a shooting expedition? ;)

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Re: Jeremy's court testimony:
« Reply #53 on: October 07, 2014, 09:36:AM »
Morning Mr. Gee think Colin states in his book Sheila knew nothing about guns I will check and confirm or otherwise.

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Re: Jeremy's court testimony:
« Reply #54 on: October 07, 2014, 09:41:AM »
Morning Mr. Gee think Colin states in his book Sheila knew nothing about guns I will check and confirm or otherwise.
Hi Susan. She of course may not have given that impression since as she was living with him there was no need to tell him that she knew about guns? But I am curious as to why it took so long for DB to confess that Sheila had actually been on a shooting expedition to Scotland?

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« Reply #55 on: October 07, 2014, 09:55:AM »
Mr.Gee again I will have to check as my brain will not absorb too much at once Colin mace a comment that when he was looking through Sheila's stuff he found one photo of Sheila on the shoot torn in half :'(  will go back to the book today and check all this stuff out will get back to you.

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Re: Jeremy's court testimony:
« Reply #56 on: October 07, 2014, 09:56:AM »

It's in her witness statement but you obviously couldn't be bothered to read them

I have read it.

There is no mention of Julie being ' angry because Jeremy would not pay for a jolly up abroad for her and her friend'.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Jeremy's court testimony:
« Reply #57 on: October 07, 2014, 10:00:AM »
Hi Susan. She of course may not have given that impression since as she was living with him there was no need to tell him that she knew about guns? But I am curious as to why it took so long for DB to confess that Sheila had actually been on a shooting expedition to Scotland?

We have to go by what Jeremy testified in court - ' Sheila had limited knowledge of guns'.

She certainly could not re load. Twice. Anyway she had no gun residue, oil or broken finger nails. So certainly did not fire the gun.

Wait there, people claim she had a nice radox shower afterwards. But she still had to shoot herself afterwards. Twice.  Without getting any gun fire residue on her.
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Re: Jeremy's court testimony:
« Reply #58 on: October 07, 2014, 01:32:PM »
I have read it.

There is no mention of Julie being ' angry because Jeremy would not pay for a jolly up abroad for her and her friend'.
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Re: Jeremy's court testimony:
« Reply #59 on: October 07, 2014, 05:08:PM »
that's a very convenient statement to make to explain Jeremys behaviour  :)

"He told me he had a mental problem and felt no guilt at all".

I may be wrong but it does sound like that may have been "fed" to her.