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Offline scipio_usmc

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Re: No Motive
« Reply #45 on: September 30, 2014, 01:11:AM »
In all the months and years on this forum NOBODY has shown any proof that the Bamber Inheritance was the motive for Jeremy murdering his family
Not a single thing
The Bamber inheritance was always going to be left to Jeremy and Sheila


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You have things totally backwards as usual.

You ignore the vast evidence that establishes his motive but that doesn't make it go away it just means you are living in denial.   In the meantime the prosecution merely needs to proffer a potentional motive not to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.

What you ignore is that there is no evidenc eof his innocence and you and his other supporters have a burden of proving such but you can't.

ALl you have proved in posting on this board is that you know nothing about the facts of the case everytime someone posts something it is something you never heard of.  You obviously just decided to assert Jeremy is innocent based on nothing at all. At least his other supprters bothered to read the materials available regarding the case.
 
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Re: No Motive
« Reply #46 on: September 30, 2014, 09:13:PM »
And you think that YOUR facts would hold water ??

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« Reply #47 on: September 30, 2014, 09:18:PM »
You have things totally backwards as usual.

You ignore the vast evidence that establishes his motive but that doesn't make it go away it just means you are living in denial.   In the meantime the prosecution merely needs to proffer a potentional motive not to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.

What you ignore is that there is no evidenc eof his innocence and you and his other supporters have a burden of proving such but you can't.

ALl you have proved in posting on this board is that you know nothing about the facts of the case everytime someone posts something it is something you never heard of.  You obviously just decided to assert Jeremy is innocent based on nothing at all. At least his other supprters bothered to read the materials available regarding the case.

Show me documentary evidence that he was not a 20% share holder in the families limited business worth about £72000 at the time of the murders.

Show me evidence in writing that he would not inherit unless he carried on with farming .

Show me that basil cock who dealt with all the family affairs knew that the twins were going to be written into the wills and therefore reduce his share.

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« Reply #48 on: October 01, 2014, 11:30:AM »
Show me documentary evidence that he was not a 20% share holder in the families limited business worth about £72000 at the time of the murders.

Show me evidence in writing that he would not inherit unless he carried on with farming .

Show me that basil cock who dealt with all the family affairs knew that the twins were going to be written into the wills and therefore reduce his share.

If Jeremy murdered the family for inheritance, it was because he didn't want to wait - it doesn't matter how much was coming to him 'eventually'. He couldn't just cash in his shares at the caravan park so everything that was coming to him was out of reach and he just couldn't wait.
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« Reply #49 on: October 01, 2014, 04:33:PM »
pro guilters have Jeremy as cunning and manipulative carrying out a planned murder initally fooling  senior detectives.  so why wouldnt he be cunning and manipulative enough to work his position as director of firms and wealthy businessmans son to set himself up without murder?

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« Reply #50 on: October 01, 2014, 04:39:PM »
He wouldn't have had the nouse,Wilf. Intelligent he might be,but gormless was his middle name.

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« Reply #51 on: October 01, 2014, 04:39:PM »
pro guilters have Jeremy as cunning and manipulative carrying out a planned murder initally fooling  senior detectives.  so why wouldnt he be cunning and manipulative enough to work his position as director of firms and wealthy businessmans son to set himself up without murder?

Because that's obviously not what he wanted to do.
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« Reply #52 on: October 01, 2014, 04:40:PM »
He wouldn't have had the nouse,Wilf. Intelligent he might be,but gormless was his middle name.

Jeremy isn't gormless Lookout.
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« Reply #53 on: October 01, 2014, 04:45:PM »
Jeremy isn't gormless Lookout.





He certainly used to be,to allow people to walk all over him. He hadn't even twigged on about the scheming that was going on behind his back.Maybe it was because he's innocent that he didn't have to suspect that anything was untoward.

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Re: No Motive
« Reply #54 on: October 01, 2014, 05:03:PM »
Show me documentary evidence that he was not a 20% share holder in the families limited business worth about £72000 at the time of the murders.

Show me evidence in writing that he would not inherit unless he carried on with farming .

Show me that basil cock who dealt with all the family affairs knew that the twins were going to be written into the wills and therefore reduce his share.

You need to provide proof he was. As you are making the claim.

He had an 8% share in the caravan business. He wanted more, but Neville said he had no business sense.

I asked you recently for proof that he had shares in other things. And proof that he could sell up and be rich. Which you claimed.

Jeremy testified in court that he would have to remain on the farm in order to inherit. Source, Wilkes's book. He told Julie he had too much to lose by walking away. He didn't like farming. Source, my recent thread.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2014, 05:04:PM by Adam »
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« Reply #55 on: October 01, 2014, 05:06:PM »
You need to provide proof he was. As you are making the claim.

He had an 8% share in the caravan business. He wanted more, but Neville said he had no business sense.

I asked you recently for proof that he had shares in other things. And proof that he could sell up and be rich. Which you claimed.

Jeremy testified in court that he would have to remain on the farm in order to inherit. Source, Wilkes's book. He told Julie he had too much to lose by walking away. He didn't like farming. Source, my recent thread.





So YOU said that he didn't like farming ?   I see.

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Re: No Motive
« Reply #56 on: October 01, 2014, 05:08:PM »
Show me documentary evidence that he was not a 20% share holder in the families limited business worth about £72000 at the time of the murders.

Show me evidence in writing that he would not inherit unless he carried on with farming .

Show me that basil cock who dealt with all the family affairs knew that the twins were going to be written into the wills and therefore reduce his share.

Well Chris,  Neville's cousin said Jeremy treated June with contempt.

Jeremy said himself his relationship with June broke down in 1978. Seven years before the massacre. Although Mary Mugford said he never forgave her for sending him to boarding school.

So perfectly believable that the twins would get a good share of June's will. As MM testified
 
« Last Edit: October 01, 2014, 05:15:PM by Adam »
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Re: No Motive
« Reply #57 on: October 01, 2014, 05:11:PM »
You need to provide proof he was. As you are making the claim.

He had an 8% share in the caravan business. He wanted more, but Neville said he had no business sense.

I asked you recently for proof that he had shares in other things. And proof that he could sell up and be rich. Which you claimed.

Jeremy testified in court that he would have to remain on the farm in order to inherit. Source, Wilkes's book. He told Julie he had too much to lose by walking away. He didn't like farming. Source, my recent thread.

He would have to stay on the farm to inherit what ? the shares in the limited company or everything?

Have we actually seen ALL of  his court testimony? If not how did Wilkes get access to it ?

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Re: No Motive
« Reply #58 on: October 01, 2014, 05:14:PM »
He would have to stay on the farm to inherit what ? the shares in the limited company or everything?

Have we actually seen ALL of  his court testimony? If not how did Wilkes get access to it ?

He testified that he had seen Neville's will and he would have to stay on the farm in order to inherit whatever was left.

Wilkes got access because he is an investigative author, writing a book.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2014, 05:15:PM by Adam »
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Re: No Motive
« Reply #59 on: October 01, 2014, 05:16:PM »
If Jeremy murdered the family for inheritance, it was because he didn't want to wait - it doesn't matter how much was coming to him 'eventually'. He couldn't just cash in his shares at the caravan park so everything that was coming to him was out of reach and he just couldn't wait.

What proof have you got that he couldn't wait
It's a ridiculous statement
Jeremy certainly was not in debt
He had everything he needed except a nice honest girlfriend that begged for money for her and her friends
He needed a nice girlfriend that wasn't violent
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